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    Quote....Imo there is a huge difference in how human factors affect aviation and hunting. Apart from maybe some visual references they should not be compared.

    As you say,”IMO”.....let me know when you want to have that conversation,it’s all about “decision making”...explain to me where these two differ,as with many others vocations,....there is a plethora of information and studies that say otherwise.......kinda surprised you said that
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    Quote Originally Posted by A330driver View Post
    Quote....Imo there is a huge difference in how human factors affect aviation and hunting. Apart from maybe some visual references they should not be compared.

    As you say,”IMO”.....let me know when you want to have that conversation,it’s all about “decision making”...explain to me where these two differ,as with many others vocations,....there is a plethora of information and studies that say otherwise.......kinda surprised you said that
    I like many others aced my human factors exam Malc.

    I know it is about decision making.

    However it is also about how are senses are influenced and being able to recognise and cope.

    You would have to agree that human factors come most into play regarding aviation because of some form of stress when it goes wrong.

    There should be no stress when hunting and making stupid decisions.

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    I would certainly agree with your point,but have you not actually answered why this is happening,those very statements are actually what is happening....or certainly contribute to this whole discussion,.....it is just “not” about identifying the target,it’s about the the “state” of the hunter,,the human factors that contribute to the demise of ones decision making abilities.......splitting hairs maybe,but the end result started with some flawed input,......stress or otherwise

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    I like many others aced my human factors exam Malc.

    I know it is about decision making.

    However it is also about how are senses are influenced and being able to recognise and cope.

    You would have to agree that human factors come most into play regarding aviation because of some form of stress when it goes wrong.

    There should be no stress when hunting and making stupid decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A330driver View Post
    I would certainly agree with your point,but have you not actually answered why this is happening,those very statements are actually what is happening....or certainly contribute to this whole discussion,.....it is just “not” about identifying the target,it’s about the the “state” of the hunter,,the human factors that contribute to the demise of ones decision making abilities.......splitting hairs maybe,but the end result started with some flawed input,......stress or otherwise
    Agree totally. But I have mentioned a few times in this thread as to what I believe leads to miss identification shootings......Attitude/mindset.







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    I stay clear of the Kaimai's during the roar to many people in there, also a lot of people that only hunt once a year out for a easy stag, i think they get impatient bashing through the thick bush and end up not identifying the target properly. there must be some way to use GPS or some kind of tech to let guys know that there is another hunter in close proximity, say 200m, may cost a few bucks but its better than shooting each other, make it compulsory on doc land along with a emergency locator beacon, just an idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by muka88 View Post
    I stay clear of the Kaimai's during the roar to many people in there, also a lot of people that only hunt once a year out for a easy stag, i think they get impatient bashing through the thick bush and end up not identifying the target properly. there must be some way to use GPS or some kind of tech to let guys know that there is another hunter in close proximity, say 200m, may cost a few bucks but its better than shooting each other, make it compulsory on doc land along with a emergency locator beacon, just an idea
    That's my understanding. Too many people in the bush and not enough bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outlander View Post
    That's my understanding. Too many people in the bush and not enough bush.
    Plenty of bush, just not a lot of easy bush so they get concentrated near road ends and walking tracks. Get 2-3 hours in off the tracks and you'll be a lot safer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Agree totally. But I have mentioned a few times in this thread as to what I believe leads to miss identification shootings......Attitude/mindset. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
    A bit like, set out 20 mins earlier than you need to, and you'll be driving a lot safer. Getting into and staying with the right mind set.
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