Thread: Hunter shot in Kaimai Range near Te Aroha

Attitude has a lot to do it i think.
There's a lot of people on this forum I wouldn't want to be anywhere near in the hills.
Not going near the Bush at Easter is a pretty good start, we where walking cows out of a road end yesterday and I counted 25 cars going in over 3 hours.
We Recently walked out down the sparrowhawk track where the soldier got shot it was pretty sobering looking at the scene maybe all hunters should be exposed to a scene like this??
Having meet the guy that shot the soldier as we flew in at same time it was intersing to see the scene and finish the puzzle.

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Let me know when this 110% certain team is heading out hunting so I can be very far away I'd rather be around people who doubt what they see and hear and constantly check themselves.

Originally Posted by Pointer

Let me know when this 110% certain team is heading out hunting so I can be very far away I'd rather be around people who doubt what they see and hear and constantly check themselves.

That's way off what Ryan is getting at and you know it. That's what he is advocating.

Originally Posted by Gibo

That's way off what Ryan is getting at and you know it. That's what he is advocating.

I may have misunderstood, as apparently others have too. But I'm sure he can speak for himself.

Originally Posted by Pointer

I may have misunderstood, but I'm sure he can speak for himself.

Go have a beer and a wank then have another read bro

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Originally Posted by Pointer

Let me know when this 110% certain team is heading out hunting so I can be very far away I'd rather be around people who doubt what they see and hear and constantly check themselves.

Where did I state that I dont doubt everything I see and hear? Or that anyone for that matter who knows they're never going to shoot someone doesn't doubt what they see and hear?
Did I say anywhere that I can tell from a mile off if you're a deer or not?

So I was just talking with another member about this and I came up with an analogy to explain my feelings around this issue, maybe not the best analogy but the shoe fits...
Trying to justify this in anyway shape or form is like blaming a women for being raped because all men have the ABILITY to rape a woman. But do all blokes go around raping women? No they don't, because there are rational thinkers among us, and then there are assholes that don't give a shit what consequences come from their actions, these are the rapists, these are the ones that don't belong in our society or in our sport. All you fellas trying to say that you wouldn't put past yourself to make some kind of mistake are probably best off staying away from women while you're at it, because that is how your mentality comes across...

Originally Posted by GWH

And maybe that's the answer right there. Make it illegal to shoot anything but an antlered deer between mid of March to middle of may (or whatever). A bit like the tag system in the US. But only applies to the rut period here.

It could make people more consious of what it is that they are shooting at.

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Non antlered deer will still get shot as people aren't IDing their target properly its actually illegal to shoot people anyway but that ain't working

Originally Posted by northdude

Non antlered deer will still get shot as people aren't IDing their target properly its actually illegal to shoot people anyway but that ain't working

Very true

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Originally Posted by northdude

its actually illegal to shoot people anyway but that ain't working

Lol good call.

Its a bloody tragedy nonetheless. Personally, I have avoided hunting over Easter for 20 years now. I have known of four associates / friends killed in the roar, and another seriously injured. People are fallible.
Ask any soldier who has fought within range of yankee field guns or bombers.

I'm also never going to have a car crash because I'm a perfect drive

If you think you are perfect (will never make a mistake identifying target) I feel you have the highest chance of making a mistake as you will likely be more complacent.

It's proved time and time again that's it's experienced hunters that shoot people, much like it's often experienced/over confident drivers that kill people etc
@Ryan_Songhurst nothing against you as you obviously feel strongly about the subject but your comments about being perfect sends shivers up me after reading/hearing horror stories from members of the other forum that have sworn they will never make a mistake and then have in fact shot and killed people.

Just remember it's a high chance the person or people involved are part of this community...

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

I'm also never going to have a car crash because I'm a perfect drive

If you think you are perfect (will never make a mistake identifying target) I feel you have the highest chance of making a mistake as you will likely be more complacent.

It's proved time and time again that's it's experienced hunters that shoot people, much like it's often experienced/over confident drivers that kill people etc
@Ryan_Songhurst nothing against you as you obviously feel strongly about the subject but your comments about being perfect sends shivers up me after reading/hearing horror stories from members of the other forum that have sworn they will never make a mistake and then have in fact shot and killed people.

Just remember it's a high chance the person or people involved are part of this community...

Can you show me where I said I am perfect please? I said I'm not going to shoot anyone, nothing about being perfect? Bit of a difference between having a genuine accident in a vehicle and poking a bullet into someone.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Bit of a difference between having a genuine accident in a vehicle and poking a bullet into someone.

Why do you consider them different?

Originally Posted by gimp

Why do you consider them different?

Scenario for one.

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