Thread: Hunting traditions elsewhere in the world

Licenced harvest in Florida. Unlike our DoC, this is practical wild animal management.
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I like it, but can you imagine a tag system working here? People are too feral and no infrastructure (or will) for enforcement.

DoC and regional councils need to address game animals as having a value. Apply that principle and proper management structure will follow; just like fishing quota.

In a country that runs a tag system a lot of the enforcement comes from the local hunters, hunters that tow the line and go by the rules will be quick to pass on relevant information to the officials of law breakers. At the end of the day by poaching you are taking away the chances of law abiding hunters of taking game so it doesn't go down well with them.

Also need to remember most of the game animals in North America are native species, unlike here.

Game animal management in NZ needs to be based around reducing numbers (in most cases) whereas in the USA it is around maintaining numbers. Bit of a different situation.

First Nation people have the rights to hunt to gather food much like the Maori have here in NZ. For the general public tags are required. Overall the system works well. As stated their animals are native to the country unlike ours and other factors come into play like a serve winter could reduce deer populations by50plus % so a close eye on populations is needed. If there counts show lower than normal animals in the spring they would then adjust seasons or have none at all to protect the species.
Good management. NZ is different as we don't have predators (other than man) or such serve weather to cause populations to fall to low levels and as stated our management is more needed to target growing numbers not the reverse.
During hunting season Conservation officers with Police will road block back roads and check all vehicles and hunters to make sure they are following the rules, will be over there in about 3 weeks and be out for a hunt for Elk on the 10th Sept, my son and both grandsons have there hunting licences so Elk tags will be in there pockets along with Mulies and Whitetail maybe a few more.

Everyone has the same moral right to hunt and gather food here in NZ. Regardless of race or ethnicity. Give nothing to racism.

Originally Posted by Bush Stalker

Everyone has the same moral right to hunt and gather food here in NZ. Regardless of race or ethnicity. Give nothing to racism.

Nice ideal, but not true. Customary take? Te Urewera?

Originally Posted by Mooseman

First Nation people have the rights to hunt to gather food much like the Maori have here in NZ. For the general public tags are required. Overall the system works well. As stated their animals are native to the country unlike ours and other factors come into play like a serve winter could reduce deer populations by50plus % so a close eye on populations is needed. If there counts show lower than normal animals in the spring they would then adjust seasons or have none at all to protect the species.
Good management. NZ is different as we don't have predators (other than man) or such serve weather to cause populations to fall to low levels and as stated our management is more needed to target growing numbers not the reverse.
During hunting season Conservation officers with Police will road block back roads and check all vehicles and hunters to make sure they are following the rules, will be over there in about 3 weeks and be out for a hunt for Elk on the 10th Sept, my son and both grandsons have there hunting licences so Elk tags will be in there pockets along with Mulies and Whitetail maybe a few more.

Hey Mooseman - I'm guessing you probably use your son's rifles to shoot in North America, but with the state of the world and all the restrictions is it still practical to take your own firearms overseas for Elk hunting etc?

Although I have done so with guided hunting, for some deep-set reason I don't like using other's rifles to hunt - its just not the same.

Maybe its just me?

Originally Posted by Copelli

Hey Mooseman - I'm guessing you probably use your son's rifles to shoot in North America, but with the state of the world and all the restrictions is it still practical to take your own firearms overseas for Elk hunting etc?

Although I have done so with guided hunting, for some deep-set reason I don't like using other's rifles to hunt - its just not the same.

Maybe its just me?

If I get to pull the trigger it will be with one of his rifles as it's easier to travel without firearms. When I hunted Alaska for my moose I had applied for a permit to bring my 338 but was declined as I didn't have a current Hunting licence in my paperwork, I had been advised to buy the licence from my outfitter on arrival in Talkeetna. As it turned out I borrowed a Ruger 338 Win Mag from one of the guides and shot my moose with it, it would have been nice to use my own rifle though.

Originally Posted by Copelli

Hey Mooseman - I'm guessing you probably use your son's rifles to shoot in North America, but with the state of the world and all the restrictions is it still practical to take your own firearms overseas for Elk hunting etc?

Although I have done so with guided hunting, for some deep-set reason I don't like using other's rifles to hunt - its just not the same.

Maybe its just me?

I took my rifle to USA a couple of years ago. If you have both the USA and NZ paper work its a bit of a hassle but doable. I got the paperwork again this year but decided to take my bow so its not needed.

Precedents for game management have existed in NZ for decades. E.g. ducks swan, pukeko, paradise shelduck, and introduced trout and salmon, chukar, quail and pheasant as some examples

Just finished reading a very enjoyable book. 'A Good Man With A Dog ,; A Game Wardens 25 Years in The Maine Woods' by Kate Clark Flora and Roger Guam. Blew me away how different things are done there. Whole different scene as others have described.

Not nescesarily money to the government. The NZ Wildlife service now Fish and Game is funded by hunters and fishermen and managed by their elected reprentatives. Unlike DoC which is funded by government the Fish and Game is funded by hunters and fishermen and manages their funds independently of government whilst applying the regulations of The Wildlife Act.