Poachers go hi-tech with military-grade gear | Stuff.co.nz
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James Andrew Pomeroy, 31, was fined $5000 in the Nelson District Court in December for unlawful hunting on private land in the Gowan Valley. Pomeroy admitted not having permission to hunt on the property but said it was one of his companions who fired the shot at the deer, and that he was there to recover the shot animal. The judge ordered the destruction of Pomeroy's hunting knife.:wtfsmilie:Quote:
Originally Posted by screamO
Look at the conviction for the guy caught with a rifle but no licence. not even jail time!
That is seriously fucked up. Stealing, while armed. Just fucking great. Judge needs a size twelve boot up the arseQuote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
Maybe the knife was special?!? I bet that taught him:thumbsup:, at least the fine would have hurt a bit.
On the other case:
Unlawful possession of a firearm... AND it was only confiscated??? Gee what did he learn from that one.
Someone needs to start dishing out realistic punishments. No surprises that this is a problem.
I don't know what the relevance of the type of gear they are using has to do with it. Not to mention the incorrect use of terminology with regard to suppressors. Agree, poaching is no good. But this report focuses too much on demonising legitimate equipment.
Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.
Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.
Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.
Can we have a heated discussion over 'what is mil-spec?', in regards to military-grade gear?
Anything of lower grade than sporting gear?
Some already do.Quote:
Originally Posted by tararua
Its profitable to poach and until its not this will continue to happen. The law is an ass an those that enforce it have no balls. Harden up on the punishments and enforce them, not just a slap on the hand and then tell them how naughty that are.
Because a rural cop speculates that NV kit is being used doesn't make it fact. His mate, a cop from Motueka, recently bought a Pulsar Quantum HD38s. This is the piece of kit he is referring to. All convictions have (including the two cited in the article) have been spotlighting incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by screamO
We sell heaps of NV and thermal kit to farmers and landowners, for pest control and security. Our equipment has enabled farmers to catch poachers red handed on several occasions, and not one of the poachers caught were using NV/Thermal. Farmers and landowners benefit from a safe and effective means of reducing pests, from rats to crop raiding deer.Quote:
Originally Posted by tararua
To say that only terrorists and poachers need NV/Thermal is rubbish. Night hunting is a sport enjoyed by many of our clients, including several police officers. It is to hunting, what searun trout fishing is to trout fishing. Exciting and productive (sometimes). I love it, and it's really convenient to get out for a night hunt after I've been bollocksing myself at work all day.
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Lose NV/Thermal, then suppressors and semi-automatics will be next. Just take a long hard look at Australia firearm laws.
As far as I am aware, no poaching convictions have arisen through the use of NV/Thermal. Not being able to catch poachers does not automatically mean that this technology is in use. Sure, there may be a few that will poach with this equipment, but there are strong laws in place that make this a very risky enterprise.
High refresh thermal imaging (30 frames per second or more), and FOM 1800+ Gen3/3+ NV.Quote:
Originally Posted by tararua
is there really a law being prepared? Sounds like a rumor to sell more gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon
No, there is no law being prepared (as far as I know), it is my creative response to Constable McDougall and his mate who attempts to link poachers and the current Iraq conflict. The way the article presented night/thermal vision and crime gave me the impression they would be happy to see this technology regulated and restricted.
So Yukon, any of the thermal stuff you sale is of that quality or lower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon
All ours are 30Hz and 50Hz. (1hz = 1 frame per second).
50Hz PAL is the best format currently available, not withstanding ultra high frequency, cryogenically cooled MCT (HgCdTe) thermal systems, that are produced for NATO, NASA etc by SofradIR, who own ULIS, who make all the a-Si thermal sensors that our thermals are are fitted with.
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Hi Yukon,
Some of that gear might be usable in the land that I have access to. To be cheeky - what are the costs involved, or is there a website that I can check out for a wee nosey?
Cheers,
Kumoe.
Yukon Optics New ZealandQuote:
Originally Posted by Kumoe
have a look at my videos on the website, and if you have any questions, feel free.
We sold over 120 Pulsar Quantum thermals to hunters last year, so it is well proven technology.
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There will be more poaching now:o
My question is, if poaching is so dangerous to other people in the area and poachers are being regarded as people that don't follow the seven basic rules and they have the same equipment as the cops, are they just setting it up so someone is shot?
I mean if I can see you and you can see me, and the cops sitting in a position which will make it hard to identify him as a human? I know you should identify your target beyond all doubt but the media makes out these people don't.
They just need to start calling deer and sheep undersize baby snappers then you gonna see shit seized and forfeited, oh and I doubt the poachers magically appeared out in the country so we'll take your car too.!
What annoy me with that poaching thing going on, is that journalists, maybe the police and maybe the farmer skeep saying that somebody is going to get shot ( as the result of poaching). They are trying to plant aseed that does not work at the moment. Waiting for the moment that something may happen, to then say : "we had warned you that this would happen" and then probably push for more restrictive
laws or action against legit shooters/ hunters.
I could see a very upset farmer shooting a poacher or a trespasser, but I hardly imagine a (wise) poacher shooting an individual on purpose.maybe my vision of the thing is wrong? Who knows.
Other thing as well, is linking the two tragic accidental deaths of the weekend with poaching incidents of the last few months.
Or at least serving them on the same plate ,as there is nothing in common between each events. It is just journalists steering shit on the surface with out digging to deep.