Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

Originally Posted by 25/08IMP

How about one of you guys with all the legal knowledge about the maps etc write us a letter that we can then send to our MP.

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Rather than everyone putting their 2 cents forward, Shouldn’t this be taken up by the local nzda branch? NZDAs national office lawyers can then write to the crown/minister with an accompanying media release as part of their hunter advocacy function.

Astounding that PGF money is being used to block public access.

Originally Posted by omark

Rather than everyone putting their 2 cents forward, Shouldn’t this be taken up by the local nzda branch? NZDAs national office lawyers can then write to the crown/minister with an accompanying media release as part of their hunter advocacy function.

Astounding that PGF money is being used to block public access.

One of our members has already been in touch with the president of NZDA who is a lawyer him self so im sure something will be done about it

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Originally Posted by 25/08IMP

One of our members has already been in touch with the president of NZDA who is a lawyer him self so im sure something will be done about it

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CEO is a lawyer.

CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND GENERAL COUNSEL

Gwyn Thurlow is from Wellington and joined NZDA as CEO and General Counsel (in-house lawyer) in June 2020.

Gwyn has taken on the role to transform NZDA into a modern and professional organisation. He has been a long time member of NZDA where he is the treasurer of Wellington Branch and volunteers on the NZDA National Heritage Trust as secretary.

Gwyn is a keen alpine hunter and particularly enjoys hunting tahr and chamois.

Originally Posted by Tahr

CEO is a lawyer.

CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND GENERAL COUNSEL

Gwyn Thurlow is from Wellington and joined NZDA as CEO and General Counsel (in-house lawyer) in June 2020.

Gwyn has taken on the role to transform NZDA into a modern and professional organisation. He has been a long time member of NZDA where he is the treasurer of Wellington Branch and volunteers on the NZDA National Heritage Trust as secretary.

Gwyn is a keen alpine hunter and particularly enjoys hunting tahr and chamois.

Yip that's what I meant.

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Maori Freehold land map.

https://www.maorilandonline.govt.nz/gis/title/19948.htm

I put that map up earlier this week, and it shows the road as not being part of the block.
I've asked the Maori Land Court for clarification.

Weird. Looks like Waipakihi Rd is not Maori free hold but free trunk gorge is.

Would make a tresspass notice from police interesting. It would read do not know land owner pick from the following list.

Left a message on NZDA HQ answerphone this afternoon. Also Sika foundation and taupo nzda.
No one available anywhere at present it seems.

I ll see him on Thursday night and over the next weekend for our annual conference.

Waipakihi Road is owned by the Crown full stop. Any closure needs to be approved by the Crown agency, which in this case to be confirmed but should be LINZ. When Shane Jones was travelling around with his PGF roadshow many applications were approved without due diligence. The minister of LINZ is Damien OConnor so send questions to him asking if his department have approved the establishing of a gate to stop public access along Crown owned land.

Go here https://www.taupodc.govt.nz/ Click maps/mapi/scroll down/go to mapi/scroll and adjust for area/zoom in.I used junction of SH1 and Rangipo Intake Rd. Left click on road for info then click arrow and three lots of info show up,click on info.

Originally Posted by PillowDribbler

Go here https://www.taupodc.govt.nz/ Click maps/mapi/scroll down/go to mapi/scroll and adjust for area/zoom in.I used junction of SH1 and Rangipo Intake Rd. Left click on road for info then click arrow and three lots of info show up,click on info.

Thanks for that. Shows it clear as day.

Down in the central south island when we had access issues denied, reduced through tenure reviews on farms/Stations sold to overseas interests or we were locked out by new owners we lobbied/wrote submissions to Central Govt and formed a South Island Access Committee with NZDA as main stakeholders. When labour got into Govt 5 years ago they stopped further tenure reviews and made LINZ take into account future access guaratees which was great but a bit late for many properties that closed access to the public land out the back. FMC stepped up too over these issues - worked together with NZDA. In the meantime we have gained access to some public land that was difficult prior.
Get together - provide maps of the issue, accumulate your email replies from local DOC amd provide photo's of the road/gates being built. Then forward to your local NZDA branch in Taupo which may end up dealing directly with the Iwi land owners? I remain surprised Taupo branch haven't jumped on the bandwagon since this thread started? Problem is that many users of the Waipakihi Rd access and other access rds likely not in the NZDA? But want action. Its a numbers game - the bigger the group/NZDA etc the more resources you have to fight back. Work together on these matters.
I personally would have thought this gate issue would have leaked out a while back to give stakeholders a chance to formulate a reply?
DOC have a huge estate to look after with little funding change over the years - they are near the bottom of Govt portfolios as they don't make much money for Govt. Bet if Cam Speedy was the big boss for the area, we would have heard about this road change way back? Just an opinion mine you.

I have just sent a message to a local lady who is/was the president of FMC earlier this afternoon to raise her awareness of this access restriction.
Haven't had a reply yet but hopefully she reads it.