Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

I have learnt from a personal experience that deals aligned to Treaty decisions do NOT require public consultation. Welcome to our future.

Heli Sika will have made a commercial decision.
I do not imagine they have "ownership" of the road.
They may have helped it happen.

@Snow4wd
Thankyou for that very commendable work. I am sure many of us look forward to the Ombudsman findings.
However; my past dealings with Ombudsman indicate that office has no poers of correction but only to make recommendation to the appropriate Minister of the Crown. A usual prior requirement is that such Minister must have been approached prior to Ombudsman creating an investigation. Perhaps in this case it may be the Minister for Local government?
Three forum members approached Taupo Council about this matter and the Mayor Trewavas denied any knowledge of the issue and stated to me that he was unaware of any public consultation having takeb place. At a meeting we attended on the subject the legal advisors to TDC brought no light to the matter either.
NzDA chief and deputy execs were fully informed by us at that time. The only other update I am aware of was a proposed closed meeting within the Rotoaira forest trust for 12th Sept but I do not know what disussions actually took place; nor any outcomes since.
Please keep us updated if you can.
Kind regards--

Originally Posted by Woody

@Snow4wd
Thankyou for that very commendable work. I am sure many of us look forward to the Ombudsman findings.
However; my past dealings with Ombudsman indicate that office has no poers of correction but only to make recommendation to the appropriate Minister of the Crown. A usual prior requirement is that such Minister must have been approached prior to Ombudsman creating an investigation. Perhaps in this case it may be the Minister for Local government?
Three forum members approached Taupo Council about this matter and the Mayor Trewavas denied any knowledge of the issue and stated to me that he was unaware of any public consultation having takeb place. At a meeting we attended on the subject the legal advisors to TDC brought no light to the matter either.
NzDA chief and deputy execs were fully informed by us at that time. The only other update I am aware of was a proposed closed meeting within the Rotoaira forest trust for 12th Sept but I do not know what disussions actually took place; nor any outcomes since.
Please keep us updated if you can.
Kind regards--

Sounds like the Taupo mayor was correct then that there were no 'public consultations having taken place'.
Rather, closed to public consultations may have taken place?

An issue that has recently been highlighted by the ombudsman regarding local government and democracy.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ncil-workshops

Then again, here's an article from 2 years ago about the ombudsman looking into public excluded council workshops.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-sta...ssion-welcomed

In fact at the meeting we held with TDC Mayor and CEO REP and their legal advisor, that legal advisor specifically stated to us that TDC did not own Waipakihi road. I have now suggested to NZDA CEO to read the recent inputs in our forum on the matter.

I would not be voting for re election of the Taupo Mayor - he's full of sh.t.

Taupo Mayor has no say .hes not aloud to make decissions ,he has to ring other parties first

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/dmsdocument...ine-adventures

https://fb.watch/f_kWQP-Fp4/

Access to the park and what they want to do are not competing for the same bums on seats.
Trampers and hunters are not their targeted market.

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Well their website does quote hunter trip prices from the Waipakihi Rd base to Waipakihi Hut and other locations on that side of the park? Looks like they are covering all areas of recreational activities? The vid just focuses on mountain biking as a cover?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Helisika and 'snag a cheap ride out' have never gone in the same sentence

Helisika doing honey or hive deliveries into the park mow

Hunting – Kaimanawa Alpine Adventures
just looking at their price list. A few cheaper flights from their waipakahi base, but thunderbolt tops drop off for example still the same price as from helisika base .

As noted several pages back, I sat in a meeting with Woody and XR500 at the Taupo Council offices.

Mayor Trewavas, the council counsel and the deputy CEO were there. The Mayor and counsel both said they were unaware of the issue before we contacted them, and initially claimed Waipakihi road wasn't even in the councils area of responsibility. We now see that the council had made a submission in support of the Trust/Helisika plan, as had Enterprise Taupo - funded in main by the council.

I am left with two possible answers as to the statements from the council

1) They are so fantastically incompetent that they were unable to recall writing a submission in favour of what I think is the largest landholder in the district, or

2) they were lying.

Anyone out there with an alternative scenario? I left Africa because of this sort of corrupt bullshit, and I am horrified to see it arriving here.