The hunter who owns the farm and lives on the farm, with a wife or a daughter or a son don’t require a permit under owner occupier status.
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The hunter who owns the farm and lives on the farm, with a wife or a daughter or a son don’t require a permit under owner occupier status.
I’m guessing even if they allow hunting at level 3, it’s still going to be a while possibly level 2 or 1 before we are allowed to travel 2+ hours to do so.
Just hoping the landowners who have land bordering public water don’t shoot it up early and ruin it for the rest of us peasants who only have public land options.
If we are allowed to hunt it may only be on private land not public land, we will still need DOC to reinstate permits if it is allowed. I think on Level 3 Public Land will still be out, hope I am wrong. Level 2 should see a bit of normality back on board.
DoC have not cancelled permits, you just can’t get a new ones. They have cancelled the roar ballots, not sure about the tahr ones.
Not if they have been cancelled.......be interesting of DoC were to allow tramping, but decline to issue hunting permits, though.
I'm more of the view that this is 'cock-up rather than conspiracy' on the part of govt. And I think it reminds us of how far below the horizon hunting is on most politicians radar, and how little they know of or understand it, and us.
And I'd further note that there is an argument that would suggest that we have a role to step up and ensure we are heard of we want that to change?
Obviously
said it before....if owners of farms get a gamebird season while joe public is locked out,the backlash will take years to rectify.........oil filters in ponds will just be the start of it.
The season will be open to all or won’t happen I guess. It boils down to economics, F/G don’t get money from owner occupier status so it would be reckless of them to open it for a small non paying few when their majority of patrons can’t hunt. My thought entirely are my own.
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In to much pain, my cancer has increased some what. Most of the time my pain is between 7/9 out of 10. Had chemo yesterday and start another one today. Pain management has improved somewhat just spikes now and then. It the life card I’ve been dealt and I will play it as best as I can.
Morrinsville bound to have contacts, maybe my son should hit her up for access.
"NZ First MP Shane Jones said he had been "plastered" by people in the Far North wanting to fish and hunt, a call he supported."
"I have no formal responsibility, other than as a Cabinet minister when we look at the options, but as a NZ First MP I realise that these calls [to ban hunting] have been made by the medical boffins," he told Stuff. "
So they're saving faces behind Dr Ashley Bloomfield the Director General of Health who signs the state of emergency orders.
Yeah @Cordite, public health experts and officials - people like Hera Cook :yuush:
Ashley Blomfield to me has certainly stepped up and is making the health minister look very average indeed.
Plus sage and a trail of green algae
Shane Jones calling his medial advisors boffins is very sad and weak, pathetic would be how I feel about Jones the king of boffins.
Yep all the best mate.Couldnt have said it better myself
To me it seems like the politicking has started for the election...........Easy to blame the medical boffins and distance yourself from the hunting ban, thus giving yourself the ability to say later, I tried to help you guys but it wasnt my decision.
Just my view.
I like many on here am seeing some disconnect and uneven viewing of what is acceptable risk. I certainly think mountain biking is far more hazardous. I guess the most important thing to consider is not just the risk but of the ease of finding and getting to someone if there is an accident. That is the key. So stuff that happens on tracks and in easily accessed places is far better for rescue services. That is really the issue. How long others are tied up for, not whether it is likely or not likely to happen. For hunting it might be that:
- Nothing further than half an hours drive away from home
- Dont go anywhere you have to touch something that others you don't know about might have touched
- Nothing longer than day trips
- If on PCL and off track then only people with In Reaches so you can be found quickly no matter what happens
- Only go alone or with people from your immediate level 4 bubble
So you could go for a hunt on private land and exercise good safety and hygiene. Who here if rabbit hunting was the only option would say no to it? So some living close to private deer hunting would be better off but I for one would not want some disadvantaged just because I couldnt. Take pleasure in what we can do folks. Anything is better than sitting at home. And spare a thought for the policy writers. I just dont think any of them are probably in any way able to understand the culture of outdoors and country people. Everything gets looked at from an urban and Auckland perspective when it comes to this sort of thing. That is not making excuses for them but I know how these things work. Farmers have been fighting it for years.
At the end of the day, once again I come back to the fact that many people and not just hunters seem to have lost sight of what is at stake if we get it wrong or push the boundaries or come out of lockdown too soon. Every day we are in lockdown hurts us economically for another another two months and pushing the boundaries could mean someones loved ones dying when they didn't need to or lockdown coming back on again and the whole country being hurt for a long time after that. This ain't about a wee bit of hunting or mountain biking folks. Remember that and be careful not to act like your five year olds. That is their game to play, not 'grown ups'. We are nearly there. Lets not drop the ball so close to the final line.
Most of us are not wee cotton buds man. Cripes, these over the top bubbleheads even stopoed roadside vege stalls ffs! IMO "they" are in general, Not Fit For Purpose.
When things return to normal (whatever that means then) we (none of us) should accept anything less than to be able to go hunting on public land wherever, whenever and however we want.
Ha ha ha. Yeah I hear you and also like Rushy I firmly that when things are done we should be going back on to our land as per normal. I have no doubt that behind the scenes that this whole thing has been a cat herding festival. They have been learning as they go and no doubt there are many egos involved and people in charge of organisations who cant plan, lead or go in to action. Over the past year I have been thinking more about my civil rights than I have for the entire rest of my life. I am a strong believer in personal freedom where it does not harm others. I do however think that in this case there has been a need for a huge level of control to beat this, as people have demonstrated time and again that if we leave it to peoples good judgement that enough of them will push boundaries or just not! I think people need to stop whinging and remember that this is not forever. It is a month or two out of our lives. Big deal. Toughen up. To not beat this quickly will have far greater impacts on our personal finances, home lives and freedoms moving forward. Remember that. I will also tell you that once done, if people in power think they can unnecessarily add extra unneeded controls in our lives that I will join you all at the front of the protest line. Man I am hanging out to go for a hunt and hear the bird song again. Like we all are.
I'm pretty sure the guidance for tramping is day tramps only on easy tracks. So i would imagine the hunting guidelines will be similar to what @Hiawatha has written. I doubt hyou will allowed to do a fly in tahr trip.
My son commented that one should go hunting as soon as the restrictions are lifted.
His reasoning was that animals have been moving into areas that they previously weren't found in due to the lack of traffic and people. Therefore the first "day" hunters might find animals lower and closer than they usually are. Makes sense to me.
Was just talking on ph to a mate in the far north. He said the behaviour up there was little different from prior. Following Hone's example no doubt :)
This is a very good article about Ashley Bloomfield’s experience. He has absolutely the right credentials to be in charge at the moment.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12324032
An email to him as "Director General of Health" should reach him. Should be published on govt website.