Thread: the OFF TOPIC to Stags shot 21 (discussion of wild animal management)

Originally Posted by bigbear

Soon as you go to a management system for stags or tag system there will be a cost, It will become a rich man sport.
We are all protective about our big game animal but they are a pest

Not entirely.............. a phrase used is "if it pays it stays" when it comes to political stuff ....... so say for example in the National Park only, the Doc or Parks mob had "limited entry hunting" tags available, each hunter got Tags with their permit it allows 4x Hinds and 1x Stag........ just say. for $100-200??? an from there after, Stag tags can be purchase for $300 ?? Extra per tag...........
this gives each hunter 5 shots , 5 deer, Freezer full, conservation in mind and homie gets his Stag... an if Homie wants to shoot 5 stags, Pay up, or hunt Private or /State forest. not the Big country for Stags.........


Its not really worth exrpessing this ideology here but you can think of it as you wish, but American and the like all Seem to get by prety well, OTC, LEH, .......... mostly aussies and kiwis have head in bum a little too much to even begin to openly discuss a potential "tag" system and mostly because theres 405 ways to skin that Taggy cat , so il stop there but it is the way of the future if its to be successful with Populations and even having animals to hunt etc............................ period.

the whole pest thing is done an dusted, $$$$ Billion have been spent to date an there is just as many deer today as was any other day of pest erradicatin...

no futher elaboration on that as needs to be a big colab and someone would need to just take a control and do it, but then i can imagine the whinge fest.... fark

Originally Posted by gimp

Ungulates in NZ require management of some kind under current legislation to minimise impacts on native biodiversity. To maintain the social license for preserving a huntable population of any ungulates in the future, it seems likely that hunters need to be able to demonstrate value in some way commensurate to cover the costs to manage the population.

Essentially: User pays in the end.

Yeah so think about thatm Every $$ go into American Tags or hunting industry, trickles back to the hunting and Game industry...... hunters fund their own conservation in a round about way and openly know that happens with their taxes..... but its only Aussie and Kiwis who kick up a stink about paying a few bucks for licenses or whatever (which could be taxed and trickled down) as the aussies and kiwis are superior and are legendary cullers........for these pest beasts........ lol rolleyes ok.

if it pays it stays,

Originally Posted by Stocky

I think your prices are high especially once you remove the other costs of the hunt. Issue is there's heaps of bulls on private too a friend guides heaps of them in South Canterbury. I agree with we need to put a value in it I just don't think that the value in public land hunting is there or that it had any significant factor on the Tahr Cull.

always guna be deer but its been mentioned before by ya, once the gunships, poisons and all that happens, it deters very good ethical hunters an good people in genera lfrom going hunting............if waro went proper hard on the Wanaka road ballot block areas (openly and publically about it an not closet poofter behaviours) then i dont think Wanaka Roar bllot would have Any entrants................. which would mean Doc makes no money, Why? cos Doc just KILLED the one thing people pay to go shoot.