Thread: the OFF TOPIC to Stags shot 21 (discussion of wild animal management)

Would the following work as a proposal: Trophy producing areas are identified - for example the Rakaia to Whitcomb pass. To hunt these blocks a special 'Managed Trophy Animal' annual permit is required costing fifty dollars. The permit must be carried and hunting in the area without a permit will incur a fine of five thousand dollars. Strict conditions will apply to the types of animals taken and those holding a permit will be required to remove a take of hinds.
I believe that the average meat hunter would not bother when other open access areas are available.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Would the following work as a proposal: Trophy producing areas are identified - for example the Rakaia to Whitcomb pass. To hunt these blocks a special 'Managed Trophy Animal' annual permit is required costing fifty dollars. The permit must be carried and hunting in the area without a permit will incur a fine of five thousand dollars. Strict conditions will apply to the types of animals taken and those holding a permit will be required to remove a take of hinds.
I believe that the average meat hunter would not bother when other open access areas are available.

It could work, and is actually probably technically possible under current legislation, if:

You included an evidence based management plan to improve ecological outcomes over the current management, and it passed scrutiny by DOCs technical advisors, it would likely need to include detail of management tools, expected results supported by evidence, monitoring to determine outcomes, contingencies if management tools failed to meet outcomes, etc

The legal aspects of the plan passed scrutiny (And probably legal challenge from Green Groups) under variously the Wild Animal Control Act, the Conservation Act, the Reserves Act, various Conservation Management Strategies, etc.

Due process was followed in implementing it allowing consultation with the correct parties, and there was adequate social license to manage an area with the word "trophy" within a city block of the name

You could get buy in from the right people of influence to actually agree to implement it

It could generate enough revenue to cover the cost of administering, ensuring compliance, etc

There weren't any risks to DOC legally, ecologically, financially, or in terms of losing control of management if it failed

Commercial interests (WARO) weren't influential enough to shut it down




I still think that starting from a trophy based perspective is putting the cart before the horse.

Originally Posted by gimp

It could work, and is actually probably technically possible under current legislation, if:

You included an evidence based management plan to improve ecological outcomes over the current management, and it passed scrutiny by DOCs technical advisors, it would likely need to include detail of management tools, expected results supported by evidence, monitoring to determine outcomes, contingencies if management tools failed to meet outcomes, etc

The legal aspects of the plan passed scrutiny (And probably legal challenge from Green Groups) under variously the Wild Animal Control Act, the Conservation Act, the Reserves Act, various Conservation Management strategies, etc.

Due process was followed in implementing it allowing consolation with the correct parties, and there was adequate social license to manage an area with the word "trophy" within a city block of the name

You could get buy in from the right people of influence to actually agree to implement it

It could generate enough revenue to cover the cost of administering, ensuring compliance, etc

There weren't any risks to DOC legally, ecologically, financially, or in terms of losing control of management if it failed

Commercial interests (WARO) weren't influential enough to shut it down




I still think that starting from a trophy based perspective is putting the cart before the horse.

Agree with this however I think again the issue of enforcement rises it's head once again as well as the dirty word trophy. But I think its another idea to add to the piles of potentials if we can solve some problems.