I saw this pic on the FB NZ deer cullers page; and for some reason just love it.... Using the great 7.7 Rimmed Creedmoor of course! ;)
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I saw this pic on the FB NZ deer cullers page; and for some reason just love it.... Using the great 7.7 Rimmed Creedmoor of course! ;)
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Just yesterday I ordered 2 of those shirts :)
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I started deerstalking with a fully wooded .303 that was my 16th birthday (1963) present from my father, which cost him just under 10 Pounds from Turner & LeBrun for a new FTR'd BSA No.1 Mk.III*. After a half a dozen trips I cut it down to a sporter and put a 4x32 scope on it, then used it regularly until 1967 when I bought a BSA Majestic .243 while working at West Arm. What a disaster! I shot 4 deer with it in the first two weeks and never recovered one. The 100 grain Norma Tri-clad steel bullets were just going straight through as the ranges were all under 50 metres. I got rid of it and my old .303 got a lot more use over the next few years (as well as a sporterised .30/06 Garand that was also a gift from Dad). I then bought another BSA Majestic in .30/06 about 1970 and still use that calibre today, never having hunted with my .303 since.
You can tell he was a rich kid, us poor buggers could only afford a pair of jocks.
What! No camo! No scope sight! No suppressor! No bipod! How did this clown manage to shoot a deer??Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
Hope you don't mind bumblefoot, pls remove if not ok.
Guy on the right is my uncle, my family settled in Mokihinui, Hector, Millerton on the West Coast in the early 1900's.
So this photo is around there somewhere.
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Greetings,
I wonder if that clay pan and the hills behind are choked with contorta by now. We tend to forget how little of the wizzo clothing, kit and especially rifles was available to most as recently as the 1950's and 60's.
GPM.
I would have said late 80’s for flash clothing. Huntech was started about then, probably the first readily available brands. Sleeping bags and tents a bit earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
Your uncle was obviously a casual hunter, he's not wearing a tie with that jacket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twodiffs
Was wondering the same thing. Wheres the rangefinder and gps. No drop chart taped to rifle not even a stock pack wheres the fancy coffee maker. Clearly a staged picQuote:
Originally Posted by Ranger 888
303's had a basic dial up open sight. So technically he probably did have a drop chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
I started with a .44-40 lever action of my fathers, but my first rifle of my own was a sportered .303. The bore was so bad the bullets were spinning cartwheels and buzz sawing through whatever I hit with it. Always wondered what would have happened if a hit a deer with it. That didnt last long till I ditched it and got a fully-wooded one like in the photo, with a new barrel. It was a good rifle. I can still remember the ancient oil smell of it.
More than likley he was proficient with the tool and chart was in his headQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
I'm glad the pic has tickled a few's fancy. It brings me bck to reading all those old early hunting books when I was a kid. Tales of carrying blankets and wearing army greatcoats up into the Alps. Rex Forrester books in the early culling days using 303's and living on venison, rice, salt, tea and having to soak army biscuits before they could eat them... I was born far too soft for those days!
the worst stuff was the dried egg powder - revolting stuff - really only good for baking - we used it to make pikelets on wet days -
@grandpamac And even later than that. I bought my first centrefire in 1980; a year after I left school. It was an ex WW2 K98 8x57. It cost around $70 and I had to put it on layby because my butchery apprentice wages couldn't afford that cost. I put an old 4x32 Pecar scope on it. It was beaten up and had a very fine crosshair reticle, but again, was all I could afford. But even then, it was mostly BSA's and Parker Hales that were the predominant new rifles we saw in Taranaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
Funny; to this day I can still remember firing my first ever centrefire shot through that rifle, and the trepidation before I pulled the trigger; I would have been 17. I'd got my gun licence at 16, and because I asn't 18 mum and dad had to agree to me getting it. The only reason they did was because I'd had firearm training in the ATC. They bought me a Stirling .22 for my 16th birthday.
About 2 years later I bought a new Ruger M77 .270 from Sutherland Sports in NP. Cost me $434, and mum hit the roof when I told her the cost! I paid a deposit, put it on laybuy, took it home. I drove to NP every Friday night to put $20 down on it until I'd paid it off!
Barwicks Auction Mart in Gisborne I can remember as a young fella going in and they had racks of 303 some fully wooded some not many new - BSA Martini action .22 rifles and 410 Kea guns for sale ( the .22 BSA might have been ex training or cadet rifles they had bought at auction ??? ) and lots of ex army clothing - used to ride back up to work on an old triumph 650 wearing an ex army great coat -
Yep.... the Military Surplus stores were our best friend.
@Barry the hunter When I was at high school (76-79) we went on a few courses withnthe ATC to Ohakea. On one of them we were meant to do some range shooting, but they were working on it so no go... But I cn remember them showing us the armoury.... Hooooooly hell; racks of 303s and even some Brens.... Plus SLR's etc of course. But the 303s and Brens...... Even at that age they would have had to mop my drool from the floot.....:D
Speaking of drooling.... K98s being packed up after WW2....
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@NIMROD Dad's old farming mags had the Valentine's surplus store ads on te back page. I used to drool at the ads for new/in grease Jungle carbines and M1 carbines for $26! Sorry for the old man "in my day" references! ;)
ahh yes - unlimited ammo to in some cases - shooting with the old Gisborne Rifle Club we had an annual shoot with the territorials - they would turn up in three or four I think they were K Model bedfords and we had a target shoot - us with our target .303 they used .308 SLR we used to soundly thrash them but lot of fun - but end of shoot they would haul out some Brens and stens and before the beers and BBQ we had some real fun - holy crap imagine that today be bloody court martial at least
1970 brochure
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I wonder how many of those Mausers ended up as Parker Hales or Midlands - jungle carbines- nice concept pity about the complete lack of accuracy -had a MI Carbine for awhile 30.cal particularly useless cartridge from my memory of it - but handy little rifle for pig huntingQuote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
I had a Midland 308 for a while; kicked like a bloody enraged bull! Far more felt recoil than the M77 .270 ir any other 308 I'd used. It must've been a stock shape thing, even with a recoil pad.... I got rid of it asap. But I did tell the buyer that it booted like hell and that's why I was selling it.
Greetings,Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
I see the Parker Hale Standard .303 listed at $36.00. I bought one about 1967 and it cost me $29.00 (fourteen pounds 10 shillings) with a new barrel. I could have saved $2.00 by getting one with a checked barrel. Note that the .222 and .308 rifles are a lot cheaper than others of the same make and model. Something to do with supporting CAC springs to mind. In 1970 or 71 a friend and I bought a 3 bedroom house to set up as a Flat. It cost $8,150.00 including chattels (whatever they were). It was a different time.
Regards Grandpamac.
It was a different time; but wages were different too. Take the Ruger for $434. When you consider I was being paid about $60-70 in the hand; that M77 was damn expenxive! We are now in a golden age when it comes to the cost of buying good and generally inherently accurate rifles...
Early 60s in Timaru,the army had a rego day and display on at the army hall.We went as high school kids do,maybe join the army.Was looking at a Bren gun,as i had read about them in my weekly army magazine.Soldier said come over and pick it up,get to see what its like to carry.Well it was bloody heavy,i got it to waist high off the ground and put it back down.Must of been about 30lbs of steel in it,really steel.No plastic of today with 3 shot mags and SS barrels.
AH, nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
look at the zkk 308 @ $168 = 3 weeks wages and a cz 600 today @ $1769 only a week and a half wages (for me)Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
but as an apprentice starting at 50% of tradesman rates or there abouts if i was qualified at the time we could say double the take home pay to get an equivelent rate so just roughly $100 per week makes the zkk about a week and half wages...... so not that different?
Greetings,
One thing that is well below old prices is chronographs. Over 30 years back (1991) I bought an Oehler 35P chronograph which cost $849.00. They are still made today, possibly upgraded a bit and cost in NZ roughly $1700.00. In the latest NZ Hunter Greg reports favourably on the new Garmin chronograph, cost $1,200.00. The damned thing is small enough to put in your pocket which beats my 4 foot screen spacing and tripod. The 35P is safe in my cupboard though as it works for me and the proof channel gives me confidence in its output. Yes it is cranky about light conditions but being retired I can wait for the right conditions.
Regards Grandpamac.
Winchester 30/30s have held value well.in today's market they still worth more than many others new price.
$168 in 1970s dollars is the same as $3,328 in todays dollars for CPI. Wages it's over $5k. ( https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/monetary-po...ion-calculator )Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty
Greetings.
I think that we underestimate the level of inflation. The property I mentioned in my earlier post was purchased in 1971, about the same time as bumblefoots price list. It was sold, with some improvements, in 1996 for $120,000.00 and the current Capital Value is $760,000.00. We bought our 8 ha block in 1992 for $58,000.00. Currently the Land value is $790,000.00. In 1974 we bought a new car for $3,900.00. An equivalent new car today is on the thick end of $40,000.00.
GPM.
my grandfather bought a brand new latest model top of the line Ford motor car for the price of one bale of wool.......
be lucky to by a push bike for that now...
great thread changing subject slightly we all talk about the good rifles we had or still have but what about the dogs - mate bought a Brazilian converted Mauser back late seventies .308 cheap as - asked me to zero it for him - bugger me the foresight was 3mm at least out of line to bore - when the FS decided to issue .223 some jumped on the Ruger Mini Matic looked the deal for goat culling - big mag semi auto but the damn things just would not shoot pity as looked well made - then there was Sportco enough said - BSA CF2 a culling mate wrapped his around a kanuka after umptenth jam up -
ha how many bales was it for a LadaQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Mark 2 Zepher or Concil was about 700pds brand new.1959( Dodge (kingsway?) was about 2000pds.
they were swapped for surplus cheese n butter if my memory serves me correctly....government to government type deal???Quote:
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