Sounds like this is going to happen shortly .
so gutted
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Sounds like this is going to happen shortly .
so gutted
SO WHO VOTED Winston IN
Do you have a link to more information?
And WHOoooo voted labour and greens eh wot ? Anyway, nats and maori would be doin the same. There's no difference in any of them when it comes to stupidity.
The poaching in gisborne is uncontrollable at the moment. I would hate to think how bad it will get when they 1080 those couple off areas. Its a big area and will take a lot off food off people's tables
Exactly. The resulting tax take from the supermarkets and butchers sales will add nicely to the government coffers and from there into the coffers of the world banking cartels. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
so who is doing this drop ,theres nothing on OSPRI site, and can't see any proposed drop on DOC'S site ,the only area of concern is high lighted in red as been done and that was cyanide laid by hand, anybody can confirm this drop,it can't be this year
A core problem in all this is that game animals (in a hunters view) are not legislated for in NZ as public assets to be managed as such on public lands. If they were recognised in legislation as public assets and thus entitled to proper game management regimes, the whole poison scenario would virtually disappear and be replaced by targeted trapping or other means of stoat, cat, possum and rat management.
They way the government has for over fifty years prevented such recognition of our introduced game animals has brought the deliberately created smoke screens of rats, possums and bovine Tb as justification for mass non target specific broadcast poisoning instead of targeted spp specific management. Public have been deliberately misled as to the available methodologies and alternatives in order to be blinded to the actual agenda. This surely must be becoming obvious to hunters by now. The twig and tweeters must be laffing their heads off to have pulled the wool successfully for so long. Hunter apathy has allowed this, while standing by and watching the anti poison activists who advocate trapping and game as assets and to protect clean waterways to become lambasted and labelled by govt and media as eco terrorists and cranks, ffs.
Yip she's lookin grim all over the country for sure and it aint gunna stop. It's all being run by extremist's. The day is coming when you wont be needing a gun..............Is that their long term plan?
Yr kids big thrill will be wearing lycra, probably coloured green and pink; that is, unless NZ'rs sort their shit out.
This would be my question,...surely the dropping of 1080,proposed,actual etc is a public knowledge requirement and thereby has a place of advertisement for public input,action,and comment.I ve looked,cant find,but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist......there surly must be a link or website that deals with these proposals????? ,..... especially given the heightened hype,and controversy over the use of 1080
Dont know the dates and that. Clyde Graf and Kathy White had a public meeting on at the Waiotahe hall in opotiki last sat I couldn't make it unfortunately but it sounds like a 1080 drop is going to happen at some point in the near future .
Yeah mate ,I get that,...and good on them for hosting a public meeting,always a good thing around issues like this.......I’m still looking,but the Govt is responsible to make us all aware,without that information,...public meetings will always create more questions than answers,but that in itself,is always a good thing.....awareness makes us all better informed
If you want basic dates and basic info go to the DoC site--poison ops; and the OSPRI site.
If you want greater detail go to your local regional council, and also to the District Health Board , Medical Officer of Health or the Health Protection Officer. For detailed regulations on the use of poisons go to the EPA website and look through the HSNO regulations.
A tangled web so sort through with sackfuls of red herrings, smoke and mirrors along the way.
Quote”A tangled web so sort through with sackfuls of red herrings, smoke and mirrors along the way.”
That says it all.....
The video.....1080 science:how and why 1080 poison is used in New Zealand .... is a very “touching “ piece
There does seem to be a good undercurrent of noise in opposition coming through, also seems to be a good groundswell in opposition to plastic on the way, maybe we can sort our shit out.
The video is worth watching.......but as with most issues,there are two sides to the story......for dogs,it’s a very bad deal....
Problem with the opposition there is way to much pseudo science and anecdotal claims that it is easy to paint the whole community as loonies.
Sticking to the core message of poison bait laying methodology and how targeted baiting reduces by-catch and is more beneficial to local biodiversity is key. There are better ways to achieve the same reduction in pests.
Running round in circles screeching about banning 1080 while offering no alternative will achieve nothing but make us all look like nutjobs
Quote”There are better ways to achieve the same reduction in pests.”
Agree with your post nick.....but according to those in the video,(and that’s open for discussion)they will tell you otherwise,I don’t get the view these are “paid”actors,they have some compelling evidence that 1080 is the way to go,,it’s not my view,but it’s certainly worth listening to
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Its not on the cards for 2019 just read a document for consultation for the proposed 2019 aerial 1080 and ground based pest control operation.
Had a meeting at Waikura last week about this 1080 drop, what was a shock is that the speaker wants to target deer and drop 1080 up to 100m from station boundary, didn't get to meeting myself but will post anything else I hear.
If I recall correctly the ERMA 1080 review declared targeting deer and large mammals with 1080 (sodium monofluoroacetate was illegal.)
As we know 'officially' 1080 does not kill Kea, however there is right now a research program at Arthurs Pass into preventing Kea deaths through the use of different Kea repellants
There is only one "W" in Waioeka....just saying.
Yes on the one hand trials but on the other flat denial that many birds are killed, this is the contradictory points I wished to hi-light. First hand on a property we owned, the entire Kea colony of 12 birds was wiped out. The Kakariki's also were killed.
At a guess Kea have a Matriarchal / Patriarchal flock structure that once upset destroys the colony to the extent that the old home range is not re-populated by surviving birds ?
I was talking to a local NZDA member the other day and saying another 1080 drop had occurred in AP nat park. He had a bit of a moan about it...
What I cant understand is why the local NZDA don't have a direct line to DOC and ask for tracking tunnel / chew card results or other methods that DOC use to establish that pest populations are getting out of hand .. the other thing I dont understand is why DOC are not proactive and send tracking tunnel results etc to local NZDA branches or have them available monthly on there website for all to see ?
The problem is Raukumara's is basically land locked and the location its costly for hunters to fly in. So deer numbers have exploded and not just reds. As you will be aware off the locals and farm staff are just taking the cream not even putting a dent in animal numbers. Also the locked up forestry is another problem up the coast.
That also is the same for possum numbers. How many guys go in the middle of the Raukumara's trapping??
Am not a fan of 1080 but what other options are out there.
I am sure they have just done a search and destroy in there?
I know a farm the boundaries southern Raukumara's that have shot 1500 deer in 12 months and still not on top of the problem.
Yes, had seen that. With the Kea on our old farm they had not 'learnt to eat human food' nor had the probably hundreds poisoned in Fiordland NP. I think the human food line is a cop-out and ignores the many baits that sit up in tree branches where only birds have access.
Some of the recent nest cam film shows cats as a / the major predator. I expect that over generations there has been a genetic adaptation in feral cats to occupy different and higher range than in the past.
There is Kakariki in other areas of Canterbury other than the Poulter and Hawdon that seem to proliferate in mast years
then have a drop in numbers once the predators get going.
With the amount of 1080 that has been dropped in the aforementioned valleys you would think the numbers of Kakariki would be better especially with the releases as well.
By memory the last 1080 operation in Arhurs Pass was a failure in terms of predators not killed according to the operators report.
Sadly the Poulter used to be good hunting with lots of Keas to annoy you.
When the first 1080 was getting used round Haast Dave Saxton was adamant it was killing the Kea, took the scientists a lot longer to work that one out.