10/22 build questions

Howdy all

I've had plenty of 22's over the years, and a couple of 10/22's and really enjoy the light cheap fun they offer. I currently don't have a functional .22 in the safe and I am keen to get another. Initially I thought i'd just get a .22 conversion kit for the AR but I think now I want to build a decent 10/22 as a bit of a project.

Initially I was planning to get the cheapest second hand one and then get a bull barrel and a decent trigger and a nice stock, but now I've found the KIDD receivers and an NZ made option from Gun city for similar money. What's everyone thoughts on each? The KIDD ones have a proven record and I haven't seen anything bad about them, what about the Gun City ones here? Alternatively, am I better off getting a second hand gun and swapping barrels and putting a trigger kit in it?

I like the idea of building something as I can spend a little bit at a time (read that as hide it from the wife) and come out with something better in the long run, plus its something to tinker with, I initially thought i'd get one of the $149 recievers GC sells,. but, i'm not sure they are going to be very good quality, can anyone offer an opinion here?

Got the coin go Kidd. Quality.Tried a fully kitted one. Impressive.

I cant comment on the gun city recievers as have no experiance, but I very much doubt anyone who could afford it has ever regreted buying a Kidd

No contest, KIDD.
And I don't even own a 10/22.
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Daren will sort you out.

My recommendation is to get as much KIDD as you can to start. In the following order:

1. Barrel - They are Lothar Walther then hand lapped by KIDD, stupid accurate.
2. Trigger - Best 10/22 trigger I have tried.
3. Springs - Relatively cheap and are better made than the Ruger IMO (nothing wrong with Ruger, just better). Springs are actually important in a blow back firearm as they hold the round in during firing.
4. Action - Probably not as crucial (OK I have a standard one) but you can have a nice KIDD one for $50 more than the fancy Gun Shitty one, no brained decision if you want a fancy auction.
5. Bolt - OK so my one is standard, don't see the need for a fancy one EXCEPT i recon they do need an upgraded extractor. Why? Tight chamber in a KIDD barrel makes them get a bit unreliable after a 100 rounds or so..

OR just buy a KIDD

My mongrel bitsa is in a Magpul hunter x-22 stock. OK so it's a bit tacticool but cant beat it for fit.

Thats the stock I want to use as well. The KIDD action is up there, but it's not out of reach, however the trigger is insane though, it's a lot of money for a 10/22. At a glance a KIDD 10/22 is almost as much as my ar without a the scope rings! Damn, i might have to rethink the whole kidd catalogue

Yeah don’t build it’s expensive buy a factory kidd seems expensive but betime you buy all the parts for a build you will spend more trust me

By the time you replace everything that you want to upgrade on your 10/22 you could have enough for a proper nice 22 like a Weirauch, or Anshutz or CZ....just my 2c. Thats not to say you wont have a nice 22 but there are other options that dont need everything replaced to start with...Or buy the Kidd. Or there is another one that makes a toggle action up Nelson way but cannot think of the name of them.

personally just buy an Anshutz and be done no fuckin around just done.

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Originally Posted by Brennos

Thats the stock I want to use as well. The KIDD action is up there, but it's not out of reach, however the trigger is insane though, it's a lot of money for a 10/22. At a glance a KIDD 10/22 is almost as much as my ar without a the scope rings! Damn, i might have to rethink the whole kidd catalogue

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The stock fits me extremely well. But it has spacers so you can adjust it how you want.

I was lucky with the trigger, A friend brought it back from the US. My action is a $50 Ruger original from a GunShitty auction. The bolt an a pile of magazines came from brownells.

All up it wasn't nearly as expensive as a KIDD rifle and came with the stock I wanted. But then I just purchased the bits I wanted, people who buy a stock 10/22 and upgrade may end up wishing they had purchased the whole rife to start with.

I had a really nice bolt action 22 savage with heavy barrel etc before and got bored of it. Very accurate with a nice trigger but heavy and not great for hunting. The KIDD barrel I have is the alloy sleeved variety (16.5") so I use it for everything. It's light, accurate and semi.

If you go Kidd you will need to look after it
A cut short 1022 with a Timney trigger is nothing to be sneezed at
Sold my model 2 brno because the accuracy was equal between the two (excellent) and I need Guns I can use (abuse)
Solid rings and a decent scope are worth factoring in

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Originally Posted by timattalon

By the time you replace everything that you want to upgrade on your 10/22 you could have enough for a proper nice 22 like a Weirauch, or Anshutz or CZ....just my 2c. Thats not to say you wont have a nice 22 but there are other options that dont need everything replaced to start with...Or buy the Kidd. Or there is another one that makes a toggle action up Nelson way but cannot think of the name of them.

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I agree if you want a bolt gun
If you want a semi a 10/22 (heavy modified) or a factory custom like a kidd is by far the best option
My kidd would outshoot most Factory bolt action’s and on par with target rifles out to 50m ltleast
I shot mine in interclub Competition against guys with flash anshutz target rifles etc etc
And I wasn’t at a disadvantage they both shot on par with a good shooter

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Originally Posted by Brennos

Thats the stock I want to use as well. The KIDD action is up there, but it's not out of reach, however the trigger is insane though, it's a lot of money for a 10/22. At a glance a KIDD 10/22 is almost as much as my ar without a the scope rings! Damn, i might have to rethink the whole kidd catalogue

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the trigger is the first kidd part you actully need, the other parts are just nice to haves in comparasm

What are/were the factory 10/22 target jobs like-apart from trigger of course?
Seem to remember them coming out within 6-12 months of buying my stainless one back in the mid 90's. I was spewing as I would've stumped the extra for one.
Mind you I did machine the breech face back (and the corresponding amount on the barrel shoulder) to allow the bullet to just engrave/center on the rifling in an effort to quasi tighten the looseish chamber. Machined up a nylon buffer pin-had to the right size wasn't around
That was a PITA but not many around kiwiland back then. Good scope mounts too so no dramas there.
I loctited the barrel in as well. Back in the day when I grouped it trying out ammo it would put Winchester power points between 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 50. depending on where I put my head as the weaver 2-10 on it has a little parallax. If I did my part it always hit what I wanted. Never blamed the gun that's for sure

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Originally Posted by csmiffy

What are/were the factory 10/22 target jobs like-apart from trigger of course?
Seem to remember them coming out within 6-12 months of buying my stainless one back in the mid 90's. I was spewing as I would've stumped the extra for one.
Mind you I did machine the breech face back (and the corresponding amount on the barrel shoulder) to allow the bullet to just engrave/center on the rifling in an effort to quasi tighten the looseish chamber. Machined up a nylon buffer pin-had to the right size wasn't around
That was a PITA but not many around kiwiland back then. Good scope mounts too so no dramas there.
I loctited the barrel in as well. Back in the day when I grouped it trying out ammo it would put Winchester power points between 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 50. depending on where I put my head as the weaver 2-10 on it has a little parallax. If I did my part it always hit what I wanted. Never blamed the gun that's for sure

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Good with a good trigger nowhere near a kidd though

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Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

I agree if you want a bolt gun
If you want a semi a 10/22 (heavy modified) or a factory custom like a kidd is by far the best option
My kidd would outshoot most Factory bolt action’s and on par with target rifles out to 50m ltleast
I shot mine in interclub Competition against guys with flash anshutz target rifles etc etc
And I wasn’t at a disadvantage they both shot on par with a good shooter

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What sort of accuracy do you get at 50m?

I've shot Darin's (the kidd agent) gun, it is obscenely accurate. A steady breath in, then out, then drill 5 shots through a single hole. I've never shot anything remotely like it. He's a good dude to deal with too

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

What sort of accuracy do you get at 50m?

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At 25 10 shots one hole just a touch bigger than a 22 projectile
50m 10 shots into maybe a 30cal hole possibly smaller
Never really needed to measure the groups as it was weather they all went in the bull that mattered
I sold mine when I got out of competition shooting
Regretting it every day and can’t afford another one
I was doing sporting rifle
I doubt there as good as a proper small bore gun