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Thread: Is the .223 the most versatile cartridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotbarrels View Post
    I read through 1/2 of the posts on this tread and I have to say that I was starting to feel sick.

    How on earth can a post like this be allowed on this forum?
    Do you not realise the damage this sort of post could cause in the wrong hands (ie my wife)?
    There is no rhyme nor reason to be stating that there is one 'most versatile cartridge'. If that was the case, I would only need one gun!!!

    Not happening!! We need to be promoting the fact that each individual rifle and calibre has an incredibly narrow field of use, and therefore the wider the field of hunting, the more guns required!

    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for rats - air rifle
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for possums - 22LR
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for rabbits - .22WMR
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for hairs - .17HMR
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for wallabies (if I ever get the opportunity to shoot one, but the guns ready to go) - .223
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for magpies - .22-250
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for goats - 7.62x39
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for deer - 6.5CM
    There is 'a' most versatile cartridge for scrub bulls - .357MAG (small bulls), .44MAG (big bulls) Still looking for the bulls, but if I find some, I'm ready.

    Then of course there's the different shot guns needed for duck, turkeys, and geese, oh and the .410 for keeping the Puke's off the plumb tree in to orchid.

    For the sake of marital peace and successful future capital expenditure requests, please be more careful with these reckless postings about making do with one most versatile calibre.

    PS - never leave your gun safe door open when your wife is home - she might happen upon it and take inventory - then you are really screwed
    Don't be silly. It's a bit like golf. I can play a whole round with one bat. Don't see why anyone would need to take a trolley full of bats with them. They are whacking the same size ball every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post
    Cases are not "accurate". Not to the degree factory ammo can be better or worse. Rifles can be, but anything mass produces varies from the first rifle after new tooling to the last rifle after new tooling. We are not calling a spade a spade here.

    What does the word "versatile" mean.

    Say I invite you to a South Island rabbit shoot tomorrow. You can only bring one rifle. There are also deer and the odd goat on the property (very real scenario, seen all three shot in one day with a .223). Does everyone have reloading gear? No. Can everyone get it in one day? No.

    Are you going to bring your (insert centerfire here) the 300 rounds you will need, minimum, to shoot bunny covered faces all day?

    .223 is the most versatile. You can get bulk ammo any ware, or a wide variety of factory ammo anywhere, you can take it on any hunt, for any game in New Zealand from the smallest in large quantities to the biggest.

    This is not the "which caliber is the best for everything" question. 22-250 is a barrel burner. So that accolade goes to the compact 6.5s and 6mm rounds. Creedbore probably holds that title. The most boringly practical round ever invented.

    If it was not for the region that is Otago and South Canterbury, then I would concede on the others. But these districts exist and there is a vast amount of fun to be had. You will need a bulk varmint rifle though.

    If everyone hand loaded, I would concede on the 22-250 but it is also a barrel burner. Try shooting 30 rounds at a face multiple times, till the thing is white hot and see how long your barrel lasts. I put 30 rounds through my .223 two nights ago in a hurry and it was only warm. I have had a 22-250 (and will get another). I know the difference.
    @Tussock I am 'outing' you. On another thread you asked about tips for raising your daughter. Good on you for that all power. But now this plug for the girly 223. I have it all figured out, tying the two threads together, I reckon you are thinking too the future and having your daughter shoot and want us to justify your unmanly choice now your wife has limited you to one rifle !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    ERMA did a gas operated .22WMR M1 Carbine in the 1980s.

    Are there many of these in NZ? That would be a nice little rifle if still available. Would be great if someone would manufacture more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moa Hunter View Post
    @Tussock I am 'outing' you. On another thread you asked about tips for raising your daughter. Good on you for that all power. But now this plug for the girly 223. I have it all figured out, tying the two threads together, I reckon you are thinking too the future and having your daughter shoot and want us to justify your unmanly choice now your wife has limited you to one rifle !!!
    You actually have it pretty accurate. There will be a nice .223 waiting for her when she is big enough, and the wife will definitely enjoy this rifle. Though without being called a liberal, I'm not to sure about this whole "girly" thing. My daughter appears to like the taste of gun oil and I'm willing to bet as she is my daughter she will shooting clean barreled magnums with Papa

    But yeah, it is a perfect girls gun and I did think of that, so you got me

    (I am a liberal)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tussock View Post
    You actually have it pretty accurate. There will be a nice .223 waiting for her when she is big enough, and the wife will definitely enjoy this rifle. Though without being called a liberal, I'm not to sure about this whole "girly" thing. My daughter appears to like the taste of gun oil and I'm willing to bet as she is my daughter she will shooting clean barreled magnums with Papa

    But yeah, it is a perfect girls gun and I did think of that, so you got me

    (I am a liberal)
    Funny thing that. The girls here generally loathe the smell of makeup/perfumes but love the smell of Hoppes (love potion) #9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Funny thing that. The girls here generally loathe the smell of makeup/perfumes but love the smell of Hoppes (love potion) #9.
    Well @gadjetman if you had let your daughters sleep in the house like normal people instead of shut in cabinets in the Gun Room they may have turned out differently !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moa Hunter View Post
    Well @gadjetman if you had let your daughters sleep in the house like normal people instead of shut in cabinets in the Gun Room they may have turned out differently !!
    Bugger that, the rifles are in the best location on the property. They live in the luxury accomodation. It's all about priorities.
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