Yhup thats about it. Still fun though
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Yhup thats about it. Still fun though
Its only Monday and you're drinking already? ;)
:beer:
They are pretty teets. Well the ammo Im using is anyway
@Toby
Glad to see you were able to drag your sorry arse outta that ditch and make your way home safely. :thumbsup:
I dropped several Goats at about 200m earlier this year with my gutless .223 :)
Cheers
Pete
I dropped a few at 200 today with my gutless .223 as well pete :)
I have trouble once they get past 360 pete :D
Me too Toby
But I've been practising ..... can hit an 8" gong at 5 hundy ..... sometimes.
Haven't tried to shoot a Goat at that range yet but I feel confident I can do it.
Cheers
Pete
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This was the best we did, 2 more by me not in the pic. Only 2 got away.
One good billy took a neck shot at 60 walked off so I went down to where he was now he was looking at me maybe 20m away thought fuck it shoulder shot cause he was through scrub hit him he heads up the hill haply as larry then I smack him as he was walking up again before he fell over. I dont know much but I know my 6.5 would of dropped him with the neck shot. But thats nothing my main concern is it wasnt a one off it happend on atleast 15 goats or so it was shit.
Hard to say cause the ones at 200 dropped like a sack of shit same as one mob at 170 but these close enoughs just werent cutting it. Maybe it was too fast so its the opposite of gutless?
Toby
The 55gr Vmaxs I used to run do this too.
At short range they would go straight through without killing well.
The Sierra 65gr spire points drop them in their tracks.
Cheers
Pete
This is just 55gr sp. That bulk pack ammo from H&F which reminds me I need more now. It shoots average as but its under a dollar a shot and Im lazy enough as it is with my reloading I cant see me loading .223 anytime soon
Not called a poo poo free for nothing Toby, eh
Attachment 40007try a 50 grn projectile rather than the run of mill hard 55s....you may be surprised at difference. big red hind yesterday didn't go 3 feet after 50 grn hit her.
as my old dad used to say ' its a poor workman that blames his tools '
I found those Hornady 55 SP's to be very inconsistent killers. That said, did you check if the neck shot hit bone at all?
I have found the exact same thing. That deer I shot the other day had the biggest hole ever smashed out of it it was unbelieveable same as a few of the goats but honestly alot of these goat should of just been dead but they took hits and it didnt worry them. Maybe I'm used to bigger better things.
Nope I never checked it
I've neck shot goats with 25/06 before and had them get up and walk around. Stopped neck shooting goats
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Meh.
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I think you need to move away from just hitting them in the neck and choose which bit of the neck to hit them in. Aim small.
Neck shots are only good if they hit the spine, especially with a small chambering
I need more people to tell me where to hit them
:P
With the .223s I've owned I have found sticking one in the ribs much better than neck shots. Not as dramatic as a properly exectued neck shot but a reliable killer especially on deer. Leave the neck shots for the heros
I'd say considering I like things to fall over on the spot that it would be considered ethical??
Im prety sure I know where to aim on a goat guys and Im kinda sure I can hit them in that spot. I didnt just decide that the .223 is gutless.
I could be wrong it could very well be ammo inconsistency but from what I gather off some members here who I actually think has had enough experince with .223s and larger animals is its a rabbit gun that can kill deer. I've shot more goats with a .22lr than I have with a .223 so maybe Im jumping the gun but I do know my 6.5 would have planted every goat I hit yesterday in the same spot. Maybe its because of all the talked up bullshit I thought it was a more capable round?
I am a new fulla to the hunting scene and i shot my first goat a couple weeks ago half way up its neck because that was all that was visible at the time and it dropped like a sack of spuds. It is a more than capable round with the right ammo and placement
It must be gutless to not break the neck when hit bang on :P
Better bullets Toby will improve your lot, explody bullets for neck shots to dump all energy and shock the spine..same for lung shots but slip it in behind the shoulder.
Dad always used/uses Winchester 55gr varmint, it causes damage out of all proportion to its piddly size.
Shot a few deer with the .223 on foot and out of a machine.
Some projectiles work consistantly for the purpose and some don't.
Probably shot as many deer on foot with a .223 as I have with any other calibre and hit them all over the neck and head and have only ever lost one that I am sure was jaw shot by the blood sign it left.
My favorite caliber to use on deer out to 250 yrds by far.
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Nosler 40 BT @3800 :D
After an early experiance shooting a pig with 223 FMJs I told everyone that they are gutless peices of crap only good for shooting rabbits with.
Now that I have brought a AR I choose to believe it's a awesome deer killer cos it looks cool and I want to carry it around the bush. To back up my theory I am using what I believe to be the most capable deer projectiles in it (1:8 twist) which are Barnes 62g TTSX.
Any thoughts or comments as to my projectile choice?
To quantify I have not shot any deer in that caliber with that projectile.
tho have shot a fair few with 223 and a fair few with ttsxs in 30cal.
The monolithic bullets love/no NEED speed to work well IMHO, they dont fragment and spread shock outward so need speed to deliver shock.
In 30cal at least they out penetrate any other expanding bullet even driven fast, I am yet to recover one including many stags red/wap hybrids they penetrate the full length of the animal.
52g ttsx is the absolute ducks nuts in the .223 for deer