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    I can help out - how much do you want for the Husky? And then take the money and buy an action thats more suitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherman View Post
    I'm a full of shit talking about an all rounder...the Husky makes me think about bush hunting but it never happens...

    I've been looking at recoil calculators and I hadn't been aware what a massive effect rifle weight had on recoil. That Tikka has always messed with my head and I had put the blurry vision down to muzzle blast...maybe it is recoil...a heavy stock might be part of the answer.
    I put a laminated stock with limb saver on my 300WM T3 and it made a big difference to how easy it was to shoot well. I attribute it mostly to the extra weight but stock shape may have been a factor too.
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    [QUOTE=Fisherman;724126]I'm a full of shit talking about an all rounder...the Husky makes me think about bush hunting but it never happens...

    I've been looking at recoil calculators and I hadn't been aware what a massive effect rifle weight had on recoil.

    Nah you are not dreaming a 284 or SAUM or 280AI will do the all round task you are after and very capable of kills at 600+.
    Read some of the posts on here from guys who run 284s or SAUM for plenty of examples.
    Stock weight and design can have a significant bearing on perceived recoil. But you donít need to go heavy. I have cf stocks with limb saver recoil pads on most of my long range rigs including magnums. very light and recoil very manageable. I do all my load dev without brake or suppressor and have no problems with recoil. For a hunting rifle which I am going to hump around the hills I really Iím to keep the weight down. For an all rounder a 284 is hard to beat.

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    Get a better stock or a cheek riser for the tikka. The comb is to low on the factory ones and makes for both uncomfortable positions and an awkward recoil impulse

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    Hi Fisherman,

    Im planing something similar off a 6.5 x 55 M70. Was suggested to me that i test the action, mag box and how it feeds first with the rounds i plan to run so have just ordered everything i need to load up. If you decide to go ahead let me know ill be happy to share notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    I know what you mean about the blurry vision. I got that with a 708 tikka plus a sore shoulder that took a year to go away. Probably your tikka is too light for the cartridge.

    A rifle that can kill deer reliably at 600yd will never be an all rounder. Such a gun would look like a tikka 7RM with 26" barrel,big gunworks suppressor or DPT with a couple of extra modules, NF/Z6/VX6 scope, heavy laminate stock (boyds) and a bipod, with handheld rangefinder, 3000 rounds downrange learning to call wind slope altitude etc: all up around 5kg.

    An allrounder capable to 400yd would look like a 6.5x55 Husqv with 20" barrel , SHV/VX3/Z5, carbon or wood stock ,no bipod, perhaps a shortened suppressor and 1000 rounds downrange: 3.5kg.
    I don't know if your being serious or sarcastic with this post......
    If your being serious one would have to laugh at your opinion.
    Plenty of 20inch magnums putting deer down at 600 with ease, do it myself, also put them to sleep at 10yards with same setup


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    Dont waste your time chasing every last fps, it doesnt matter in the real world, it wont make a difference, all it will do is cause head aches and frustrations. And dont listen to silly old cunts

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    What are you calling an all rounder what do you hunt

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    I did a 284 in tikka action 19" barrel and suppressor. With 2209 and 162s its nice to shoot, slow feeling recoil. I also have a rem mag and put it into a manners t4 stock, bit more weight and different profile made it a lot more polite under recoil
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    I think a 7x64 or a 280, would be less likely, to have any feeding difficulty's in that action. And are the equal of the .284 and easer to source brass.
    Nice rifle those old 98 husky, ive got a 9.3x62, and had a 6.5 x55, lightweight long before, it was trendy, and nicely balanced.
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    I know nothing about the huskys, but do have a bit of experience with 284's (I have a 22" on a M595 Tikka, and a 17" suppressed on a T3).

    I run 162gr Amax in the 17" 284 and can push them at 2750 without too much trouble with one of several different powders now all very accurately. If i push the loads a bit i can get 2800, but they are right on the edge of being very close to excess pressure signs.

    With the 162 Amax at 2750 fps, at 600 yards it has almost 1400 ft lbs energy and just shy of 2000 fps velocity, Plenty enough grunt for deer at 600 yards, and my rechambered tikka barrels are plenty accurate out there too.

    The 17" barrel with the DPT magnum suppressor is still 1 inch shorter than the factory 22" barrel, so its handy as to get around in the tight bush. Its definitely a true 6-600 yard allrounder in my book.

    Ive also got a very lightweight 22" barreled 7mm SAUM, bare rifle is less than 5.5 lbs with a stug CF stock. I run the 162's at 3000 fps in that, and i need the DPT magnum on that to shoot it.

    The short barreled 284 with the 162's gives it the legs to be a true allrounder, it is always used with the suppressor fitted so theres no mucking around with POI shift from can on to can off etc, its super easy to shoot, easy to carry around. I can fit the very long rounds with the 162's seated right out in the neck in the Tikka LA mag, its just an allround no drama work horse really. Could just about say that its really the only rifle i need (but dont tell the wife that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by southernman View Post
    I think a 7x64 or a 280, would be less likely, to have any feeding difficulty's in that action. And are the equal of the .284 and easer to source brass.
    Nice rifle those old 98 husky, ive got a 9.3x62, and had a 6.5 x55, lightweight long before, it was trendy, and nicely balanced.
    I'm not sure the mag length would let me seat the Amax right out in a 280...I know nothing about the 7x64 and will have a look.

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    This has been an incredibly helpful thread...a huge thanks to everyone...

    One of the biggest things I learnt was that my head wasn't being messed up by percussion (or shockwave)...
    It seems to be all about my head firmly connected to the recoil of the rifle...which I guess is not so bad compared to some guns...
    But when the round count goes up things start going to shit big-time...including my shooting...a snowball effect...and I like to shoot a fair bit...
    My daughter is an Olympic athlete...I begin to appreciate how important confidence is to her performances...

    And I hate recoil from a hunting point of view...even if I have a spotter a huge part of the joy is watching that bullet arrive...
    And with the magnum in an awkward position you have got no chance if you are by yourself...

    I think 284 or that type of medium sized 7mm is the answer...and I can push my Savage 7mm08 close to the velocities GWH is talking about with RL17.
    Its got a heavy barrel but Tru Flite can reprofile it for really reasonable money...they wont re-chamber a well used barrel (its about 200 hundred mild rounds)

    One of the drawbacks of the Husky for the 280 in particular and for all my shooting is that the Mauser doesn't top feed well...I hardly use the mag...
    No doubt in my mind that Tikka long action is the way to go if I want a 284...

    I might just go to the 150 eldx with a faster powder at 2850-2900fps until a nice 280 or similar comes along...its telling that you don't see so many 284s for sale...

    Cheers guys...brilliant forum
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    I have a mate in the UK who built a 280AI for exactly the same reasons as you want to change, uses it all over the world, he’s a top bloke and has got all the numbers and so on, if you want I can put you in touch with him, he’ll be only too happy to help if you need I’m sure.

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    Well if your after a 280, then trade me has a real nice M70 Winchester and a CZ 550, as well as couple 280AI, at present.
    7x64 and 280 rem brass is 20 thou difference in length, 7x64 normally throated longer than 280 rem.
    I am developing loads for a Sako AV 7x64 at present, and it has a long enough action to fit a 375 H&H, 7x64 have lots of free bore, I cant get near the lands or mag length, with a Eld-x 162,
    I was looking into a .284 myself, struggled to find brass, was offered a 7x64 Sako for cheap,

    Seams rifle treads come and go a bit, nothing wrong with sum of the older cartridges, esp. when loaded to same pressures, as more modern ones.
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    I have a spare CF2 action that would be perfect for a 280 project. Plenty of length, great trigger and feed. Will fit into a Rem 700 blind stock. PM me if interested.
    Regarding recoil. I have a 270 with a Bell and Carlson Kevlar stock. That stock, because of the soft Kevlar absorbs recoil to where it feels like shooting a 222.

 

 

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