Anyone here built one on a bolt action before?
Something a bit different, short range but big punch.
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Anyone here built one on a bolt action before?
Something a bit different, short range but big punch.
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I have some bolt guns on the way at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
I decided on the 450 Bushmaster instead.
Easier brass & much better selection of .452 projectiles for pistol & rifle.
The Socom is .458 so predominantly big hard rifle projectiles & getting brass can be "interesting"
Really looking forward to getting the Bushmasters go in light portable rifles :cool:
Mainly aimed at using subsonic pistol projectiles.
Plenty of grunt with supers too :)
Awesome cheers KG, yeah the .458 looks a prick to get componants and expensive to run but thought it would be a fun project. Having a read it appears it's pretty easy to convert a Savage SA .308 into a .458 rig.
How hard is it for the .450? Will be doing some research into both. .458 apparently does a good job with the 300gr ttsx.
The 450 Bushmaster is essentially a 284 win cut off at the shoulder with a small primer pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
You can't cut the 284 win brass down easily however because the brass is too thick & would need reaming or turning :oh noes:
Hornady make the Bushmaster brass & there was some loaded ammo available 250 FTX at an advertised 2200fps out of a AR :cool:
The Yanks are loving the Bushmaster in the AR shooting all sort of stuff like Deer, Pigs, Elk & Bears.
Looks like from my research the BM will work in a rifle using the 243-308 case.
I will be building them on Tikkas, Rem 7 & 700.
Like your setup there Nibblet. I want to have pretty much the same setup but in either 223 or 308 for target/varmint/fun shooting. Did you buy a Rem 700 Tactical as your project base and work from there?
How do you find the B&C Medalist Tactical Stock?
Was just an example sorry. Wish it was mine. Was what I was thinking of doing but might just have to wait for KG little beaties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan
One pictured is based off rem 700 and apparently shoots 3.1inch groups at 300 yards @2100fps
Same setup with 700tact at 16inch with suppressor would be cool. 308 obviously
Hi,
I have built a 458 socom on a Winchester 70 short action.
I use it as a single shot and shoot subsonic loads. Despite the big suppressor I fitted on it , it is still quite noisy. The recoil is not bad, the effect on the target backstop quite devastating!
I own a chambering reamer and so does Gag Zigliani from high country suppressors.
Brass and reloading dies are available from US suppliers.
I shoot Speer 350 and 400 gr bullets with reloaders7 powder.
Friwi
Awesome cheers mate. I'm waiting for a suitable donor rifle to pop up and then will look at going down this track. Seems like it would be a bit of fun
Just go the whole hog and build a .50BMG. Then let me borrow it.
Tempting but too much money. Go halves
Love to see someone fire a 6lb 50 BMG...........from a bloody long way away......:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
Eh? Who what where now? Don't think even one of your muzzle brakes would suffice on something that light? Nor would it protect from the grenadeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Just comparing the weight of a 50 next to the 458SC-450BM :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
You need a 45/70 Nibblet, not one of these butchered "it has to fit in an AR" rounds.
I'm sure @Maca49 would agree.
+1:thumbsup:
At some point I'll go down that track. I would prefer .458 in a bolt action. AR can't handle higher pressure. Just something a little differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot
Should have the 450s going inside a month :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Sounds good. Be keen to see the results before I go down either track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
I'd even pay extra if they did it prone on and ice rinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
actual bloody LOL:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
You know that game where you throw something and people use a broom and get it into a circle. That idea gave me the idea of playing that without the broom guys and using a gun to throw yourself.
Haha curling? That would be awesome fun with high powered rifles
And you'd have different cals depending on how far you need to go
you guys crack me up:cool:
Be like golf, driver (50cal) to tee off, putter (223) for close to the hole. Cut some holes in the ice for water hazards.
Snow for sand pit.
I have an article in one of my mags, i'll see if i can find it, about a rifle built on what effectively was a cut down .458WM, was very handy apparently at launching 500gr pills subsonic or stoked up to 1900fps.
Upside was brass could be made from pretty much any belted magnum case.
Nah Howitser for a driverQuote:
Originally Posted by Nibblet
Haha if you shoulder it I'll caddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
I have brass & dies , but never , got around to building a rifle yet , you may also , want to consider a easier option , use a belted mag case & cut down to 1.5-2 inches , and use in a short action rifle .
Just watch your twist rate for the bullets & speeds you want to run , and yes its not going to be as quite as smaller bores , as you need a large hole at the end of any suppressor .
Later Chris
Another candidate is the 458x1,5" from a belted case as suggested above.
Twist of 1in 14" should be a minimum, I went with a 1 in 13" and it works well.
Just buy a ruger 77/44 if you Really want a brick cartridge in a bolt gun for some reason
Gone that route before. The barrel is a 1 in 20" and you don't get the best accuracy with the heavy pills ( we are talking groups into a lemon at 100 m, at least).
Friwi
I loaded some 458 for a guy a while ago. Took forever to get brass etc
KG and I were talking about this a couple months ago, 45 pistol cal rather than 458 rifle is the way to go IMO
At least you can by 450BM components easily
I got my brass through Arthur Cleland but you could get it from reladerinternational.
I went with the 458 because of the choice of higher weight bullets and because the case has a shoulder and would be producing potentially a higher accuracy round. You could shoot heavier bullets with the 450 if you were casting your own, but you would need the appropriate barrel twist to stabilise them. Also the 450 bushmaster was never designed as a subsonic round initially ( which does not mean it can't be:-) more another heavy hitting round in AR.
I'm building bolt action 450 Bushmasters, using a fast twist barrel, with the main goal being subsonic lightweight bush rifles.
Using pistol instead of rifle bullets should make them extremely effective in this role.
They will also be very interesting supersonic :)
Make sure you post photos video etc
Indeed, that would be interested.
An hornady xtp would do a nice job :-)
Yep & the FTXs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
I am after a 450 Bushmaster AR bolt if anyone knows anywhere to get one from or has one they would be willing to part with.
