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    @grandpamac Yeh l seen a bit about that a while ago ,sounds like just another marketing attempt to rope in Ninja Snipers, on the back of the US military brown paper bag, under the desk new platforms/calibers decisions .

    I just got back from a series of extended hunting trips over the last couple of months with another Allen Carr build, a 284W built on a early 90's Rem action that was trued,Bolt fluted,Bolt Handle skeletonized & trigger worked.We put a 24inch True-Flite rifle barrel on,that after load testing & accuracy proved was docked & threaded at 22inch for the Suppressor,the chamber was long throated to seat the bullets way out in the little fat cases & gain maximum velocity.

    All that was pillar bedded into a Bell & Carlson Ti Stock I have owned 2 of these 284W over the years & found it a highly efficient hunting round ,but always found the only limiting factor in performance was the rifles only had short chambers so the bullet seating limited powder capacity .The rifle comes in at just under 7lbs loaded & is perfectly balanced right between the hands ,so a perfect weight compromise IMO for carry /shooting off hand which due to low scrub in areas l hunt a lot is a important factor.




    With a long throat & magazine to match, your rifle you can seat bullets level with the base of the neck giving more case capacity than you would with the standard length throat. All my 284W's loved AR2209, my favorite Hunting Loads for Goats ,Pigs,Chammy & small Deer is the Speer 130gn BT pushed along by 58gn hitting around 3150fps ,my all round loads are the 140gn NP with 57gn hitting 3100fps & 145gn Speer with 56gn for 3000fps. My premium Tahr & Deer load is the proven 140gn Barnes-X pushed along to around 3050fps & the 160grn Speer doing around 2935fps ,l have taken Elk & Moose with those as well as plenty of good Reds here,but in reality the 140grn loads are what l do the majority of hunting with,the 140grn Barnes -X shoot into 14mm & the 130grn & 140grn NP's 18-20mm .

    The mild recoil of the 284W IMO is comparable to 7/08 & enables you to watch hits through the scope no problems what so ever ,even this old girl from the the early 60's shows up most of these current Man Bun magnums in the field .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunji View Post
    @grandpamac Yeh l seen a bit about that a while ago ,sounds like just another marketing attempt to rope in Ninja Snipers, on the back of the US military brown paper bag, under the desk new platforms/calibers decisions .

    I just got back from a series of extended hunting trips over the last couple of months with another Allen Carr build, a 284W built on a early 90's Rem action that was trued,Bolt fluted,Bolt Handle skeletonized & trigger worked.We put a 24inch True-Flite rifle barrel on,that after load testing & accuracy proved was docked & threaded at 22inch for the Suppressor,the chamber was long throated to seat the bullets way out in the little fat cases & gain maximum velocity.

    All that was pillar bedded into a Bell & Carlson Ti Stock I have owned 2 of these 284W over the years & found it a highly efficient hunting round ,but always found the only limiting factor in performance was the rifles only had short chambers so the bullet seating limited powder capacity .The rifle comes in at just under 7lbs loaded & is perfectly balanced right between the hands ,so a perfect weight compromise IMO for carry /shooting off hand which due to low scrub in areas l hunt a lot is a important factor.




    With a long throat & magazine to match, your rifle you can seat bullets level with the base of the neck giving more case capacity than you would with the standard length throat. All my 284W's loved AR2209, my favorite Hunting Loads for Goats ,Pigs,Chammy & small Deer is the Speer 130gn BT pushed along by 58gn hitting around 3150fps ,my all round loads are the 140gn NP with 57gn hitting 3100fps & 145gn Speer with 56gn for 3000fps. My premium Tahr & Deer load is the proven 140gn Barnes-X pushed along to around 3050fps & the 160grn Speer doing around 2935fps ,l have taken Elk & Moose with those as well as plenty of good Reds here,but in reality the 140grn loads are what l do the majority of hunting with,the 140grn Barnes -X shoot into 14mm & the 130grn & 140grn NP's 18-20mm .

    The mild recoil of the 284W IMO is comparable to 7/08 & enables you to watch hits through the scope no problems what so ever ,even this old girl from the the early 60's shows up most of these current Man Bun magnums in the field .

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    Greetings Bunji,
    Amazing how a cartridge brought out for a lever action is still relevant and modern almost 60 years after introduction. It has become quite popular for F Open and my son has one and has even shot a deer in the Kaweka's with it. Cases are even back in production. So many cartridges so little time and money. For me it would only near duplicate my SAUM.
    Regards Grandpamac.

 

 

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