Has any one got either a CZ527 or Howa Mini in 7.62x39 and tried the Hungarian or Romanian steel cased FMJ ammo through either of them?
Just curious as to what the accuracy is like?
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Has any one got either a CZ527 or Howa Mini in 7.62x39 and tried the Hungarian or Romanian steel cased FMJ ammo through either of them?
Just curious as to what the accuracy is like?
Yea I am curious as well ?
Looking for a bolt gun to replace my evil semis
Also CZ vs the ruger ranch, both in 7.62short
Read plenty on google from US POV, keen on kiwi perspective?
Intermediate. Am leaning towards the CZ personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke556
My howa mini used to shoot under half moa consistently at 100m with match grade reloads
It was a 6.5 Grendel though not a 762x39
I’ve got the same model and have the same experience, apart from ammo- I’m running Hornady 123gr Black. They are super good.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
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Did you do the magazine change yourself?would get one but don’t like the long mag set up on the howa.
Apparently you can cut them down to sit flush easily enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by The bomb
accuracy and the 7.62x39mm FOR HUNTING is sort of a non starter.......the cartridge is only ETHICALLY a 150 yard job,-200 at a real stretch or for smaller lighter animals...wallaby/goats/fallow hinds.... so in reality you only need 1 1/2---3" grouping at hundred yards to be on the money for chest/shoulder shooting.
my experience with it hunting wise has led me to this conclusion...2" at hundy when sighting in...good to go...dont touch a thing...just go shoot stuff and be happy
if you want to shoot tiny wee groups buy a .223,the reds we have shot with it have been under 50 yards so accuracy wasnt an issue at all.bang flop from chest shots.
No idea about the Howa but a friend got a CZ 527 in 7.62x39 and he likes it, finds it accurate and nice to shoot.
What are the Howa mini's like after a few shots? My Howa 1500 308 is 1/2 MOA when cold, but that goes out the window with prolonged shooting.
I'm waiting to see if the heavy barrel mini action's make it here. One of those with a ten round mag would be great for goats.
Had a Howa in 7.62x39 and found it a bit meh. Shot more than well enough for the range limitations of the round but I wanted better. Sold it and got a CZ in 7.62x39 and it was a pretty sweet shooter. Steel cased 123gr Hornady SST into 1-1.5" at 100m and better with reloads... Still wanted better though... Had it rebarreled to Grendel and now it's under 0.5".
Ruger Ranch would be my choice. Can't go wrong with howa for the money plus you can get stainless for the same price (and come with rings). All are great options, I like the CZ but they had some issues with sticks cracking in 7.62x39. I saw one recently
Think what is required here is 7.62x39 accuracy to use up bulk rounds left from legal semi era.Quote:
Originally Posted by PommyMcPomFace
which sums up my point perfectly....my elcheapho norinco x39 bolt does the same thing for a lot less $$$$$ if you want tiny wee groups buy a .223Quote:
Originally Posted by PommyMcPomFace
The norinco is good for the first 3 shots but I don't like the way the bolt rattles. HB Howa for me I think. I tried the Ranch for size and although it pointed well it felt a little short on LOP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I really need to get round to bedding the norinco for something to do.
I assume you know that all East European Military surplus 7.62 x 39 has been made Prohibited Ammunition because it has a mild steel core and must be surrendered to Police by 30 September.
I guess you weren't informed all the East Euro Ammo was bio degradable and disintegrates on Sept 29Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Jack
There is one exception, the Yugoslav Military Surplus has a lead core I believe.
So far in this thread we've covered the CZ 527, Howa Mini Action, Ruger American Ranch, and Norinco JW-103.
There are a couple others also worth mentioning.
The Zastava M85 is also available here in 7.62x39.
Ruger used to make a version of the M77 Mark II in 7.62x39.
Savage makes the Model 10 FCM Scout rifle in 7.62x39.
Australian International Arms used to make 7.62x39 Lee Enfields that took AK mags.
They went out of business in part because their rifles couldn't be imported into the USA.
That was due to their rifles using some parts made in Vietnam, which was subject to a US trade embargo back then.
Those trade embargoes have been withdrawn since then, but I doubt AIA will be making a comeback.
I would give my left nut for a ruger M77 in 7.62x39..
Your wife owns both... has she allowed you to have one?Quote:
Originally Posted by The bomb
Your mini 30 was the bees knees!
how long will it take ruger to create a whole series of 66s???? there is a few .44 mag levers out there...seems a logical step to also do the same in the other calibres the mini 14s/30s/6.5s were produced in...... why not the 10/22 and 10/22mag while they are at it???? surely it wouldnt be hard for them to do and sure as God made little green apples,they would sell like hot cakes.
Ruger can't make or supply enough of their current range let alone start a new production.
I have a Howa Mini 7.62x39. I use Hornady training ammo with the 123gn SST through it. Brass and steel cases both shoot the same. Mine shoots consistently sub inch at 100m and often a ragged hole. It's barrel is cut down to 15 inches with a dpt on the end so bullets not going too fast. I have shot probably about 200 odd deer and pigs plus a few goats with it. I can achieve consistent kills out to 250m with it, but solid shoulder hits at range result in a wee dash'n'die. Usually about 50m if it happens and I don't lose them. As the bullets are going slower, bigger deer often go down more quickly. This is a cracking wee rifle and hasn't missed a beat after a lot of hunting. I have cut the magazine flush to a 3 rnd capacity. I carry a 5 in my pouch for a quick change. Works well. Weighs about 5 pounds all up. I use a Picatinny rail on it with QD rings on my scope and sometimes use a red dot instead of a scope
How hard to chop the mag?sounds like a similar setup I have in A7 in .308,can use open sights as well as red dot and scope on mine.
Don’t need either anymore..got 2 kids..Jacinta now owns my mini 30 and marlin 22, got paid twice what I paid for it though so not too painful..Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventenths
Ha, ha... well said!
I’ll send you a PM in a day or two as I’m heading off on an overnighter
Easy to chop mag down to 3 shot. To be fair unless your 7.62x39 is really short and light you may as well have a 308. Mine is really handy and light. Works a treat and ammo cheap like 223. Kills way better than 223 on big reds etc.
If you trimm the guiding flaps either end of the follower and leave out the base spring locator youll fit another round or two in piece of pissQuote:
Originally Posted by Hiawatha
You forgot the Interarms Mark X Mini Mauser, also produced by Remington as the Remington 799Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwigunguy
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pretty sure thats the same as a zastava....
Yes. I'm pretty sure they were made by Zastava (Both the Mark X and the Remmy 799) although the reason I bought this wee rifle is it stood out as being a bit less agricultural than any of the Zastavas I have seenQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
did I spot the cz in circle on yours???
Zastavas made before 2003 will have the cz circle mark and made in Yugoslavia. The standard of finish is much better than later serbia marked ones. They still shoot well though.
the 22s by zastava are also sold as winchester wildcats remington also rebadges them and they are also sold as a james daly in the us as well
One of the advantages of 7.62x39 for those of us who do not reload has been cheap ammo suitable for close range knock downs. Is anyone expecting this price advantage to change now the semis are gone?
Ahhh. A Haurangi head by the look of it. I shot his brother over the roar. I really like that rifle set up and the caliber.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRST
I cant see the barnaul getting dearer and hornady 50 packs shouldnt change dramatically....the USA will still be using similar volume so manufacturers wont change a thing just because our drop in the global bucket has changed to a mini droplet. so no I think it will stay the same...... look at it this way,the price of .223 ammo didnt go down when a whole heap of folks bought AR 15S so no reason it should go up now they are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
Unless cunt face brings out a tax on military cal anmunition
just as well we shoot .223remington and .308 winchester instead of 5.65 and 7.62 than isnt it.....
