If your rifle likes them then the Nosler Long Range Accubonds kill exceptionally well near and far.
Those 142lrabs could be the goer then
Put a 162 eld m through a red at 50m yesterday. Punched through the shoulder shattering it, cut both lungs in half and left a tennis ball sized exit. Animal ran (as with all double lung shots) but the blood trail looked like it had been painted on. Easiest track I've ever done.
Pretty fucking impressed tbh. I've shot a few animals now but that was the closest, the longer shots were equally impressive. Launched at 2750 out of a 19 inch barrel
Shit that is pretty epic. The eldm is actually a projectile I have been looking at a bit along with the 150gr eldx and nosler BT. Mostly mostly shoot reds and fallow so matter of finding which pill will not pencil through the smaller deer or explode on the larger deer really. Can only imagine what a 162eldm would do to a fallow lol
162ELDM are awesome for me being launched at 2970FPS. Have killed reds and fallow from 80 yards to 480. All have dropped on the spot or left a huge blood trail and died within 20 metres.
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Would probably still be fine on a fallow. I had a couple of blow ups with the 140 nbt at 2650, so far I like the eld m better at all ranges. I've had exit wounds every time. That said all the animals shot with the nbt died quick.
I would probably still chose something stouter for close up stags, but am liking the eld m a lot so far
@Monk how’s the recoil in that setup? I’ve just built the exact same setup. Was only planning on shooting up to 168gr.
It's funny you bring this thread up.
I've had a rem mag, sold it and built my 300 win mag as tops rifle, as I carry my 308 90%of the time of which she is a light clean killing machine I came to the conclusion what if I could have something that's the weight , portability , recoil, length (all the basic attributes of a 308 with less recoil being the exception) but could reach out further ?
The conclusion - 20" 284win. The only real sacrifice being that I see is that factory ammo is non existent however we know for LR stuff one generally reloads anyway irrelevant of calibre.
The 284s are little honeys ! Can't wait for my one(sell my 300 first)
I'd heard all about em.
Wasn't till I shot one it was like I had a new set of eyes in my head.
Suppressed 284win has virtually no Recoil I just couldn't believe it.
I think I'f you had to have one rifle to do it all for hunting atleast of medium and big game here in NZ with one gun the 284 would be pretty close to the top of the list.
I have a brand new/unfired Tikka stainless barrel in 7mmRM available if thats of any use to someone for a bushpig/rebarrel?
Also a new T3x stock
It's funny but the 284 is such a good round yet no one has done a factory rifle for it for a long time and its ballistic twin the 280 which was offered in a wider range of factory rifles is suffering the same fate. Try finding a Remington bdl ss 280 these days .Rocking horse shit is easier to find.
I have seen a couple, in ss and blued. Also worked on a couple of 35 wehlen.
If its a 280 (or its ballistic twin the 284) you think you need then you can go with the original and not loose a thing, yup 7x64, mine shoots 160's at over 2900 (accuracy load is at 2820, under 3/4 moa day in month out from a Brno) and it pre-dates anything mentioned in this thread (unless I've missed something). Just goes to prove the selling of hunting rifles/calibers is a fashion industry. (7x64 was introduced in 1912)
Of cause it is ,gun writers and magazines and firearms companies work it just like the any other trend. The bush pig concept is a classic example ,NZ hunter mag builds one writes about it and bingo suddenly everyone is reaming their 7mm-08's out to 284 and cutting barrels down . The creedmoore is a classic example it wont do anything any better than 260 but it was marketed perfectly ,where the 260 was not . The new 6.5 prc is a re invention of the the 6.5 rem mag just marketed better and chambered in more rifles. Carbon fiber stocks, suppressors, super lite rifles all just fashion trends . Makes you wonder how we ever coped with our old heavy long barreled rifles in 303 . I'l bet the deer haven't noticed our trendy new guns.
Have fun
While the 7x64 is the euro equivalent of the 280, and is a damn fine calibre, in my experience owning both 7x64, 280ai and 284s it runs 100-150 fps behind the 280ai, and 50-100 FPS behind 284. Love my 7x64 - it’s a old school HEYM wood and blued, superb example of German gunsmithing, but it ain’t light. So for most hunting trips, especially bush & rain I take short barrel light 284. Tops hunting the 280ai.
The creedmoor fits properly in a short action with long pills, carbon fiber is lighter while still remaining rigid and supressors significantly reduce the amount of damage to your hearing.
While I agree that fashion/marketing has a big say in what is adopted and what isn't in the public market, all the things you listed above represent incremental improvements to a specific function. I really don't see how this is a bad thing.
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What is the problem with gunsmiths working on T3's? I thought lots of people had 7-08s drilled out to 0.284 were their issues?Quote:
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How do you even get a tikka 284 these days. I thought gunsmiths refused to work on them?
7mm saum sako 75, 22" shilen, dpt, stug stock.
2950ish with 2217 and 162 eldx.
Goes great
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Hey guys gun should be getting put together this week. Have a 25-06 tikka and a 20" 284 barrel. Does the gunsmith just screw the barrel onto the existing rifle and it is done? Length wise I am thinking I will go 18" due to mostly bashing around in the bush with the odd trip where I can stretch the legs out anywhere from a couple hundred to as far as I can try to shoot.
Anyone using the 168 vld's, how do you find them at different ranges?
Attachment 105909 19" 284 tikka with dpt mag suppressor, 20moa rail and sightron stac 3-16x42. Reloading starts this week
Looks like a sweet set up, onya ! Look forward to the reports after your load dev
Looks sick!
Well this is not ideal. Run the brass through a fl resizing die(brass happily Chambers) but as soon as I load up a round it will not chamber at all. Anyone have any ideas???? Losing my mind at the moment
Tight neck chamber maybe? Or projectiles jamming in the lands?
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Nope and nope. Finally figure it out and it is throated VERY short...
Back to not being very sure now. Will keep the viewers posted....
Come to the conclusion the brass is too long after comparing with saami specs so I have just ordered a case trimmer from gunworks. If that does not work I may have to get the chamber opened up which is a pain. Have tried 120vmax and 162eldms with no rifling marks on either projectile. End of the day could just be a very tight chamber. Am using factory Winchester brass btw
Does the empty brass chamber ok ? Then won’t chamber with pill ? What’s the neck diameter before and after loading a pill? Do you have a way of measuring the coal to lanz like Hornady case and gauge ? What part of country are you?
Empty brass goes in mint but soon as you load a pill it is a major struggle or will not go at all. Will measure before and after tomorrow. No way to measure coal to lanz but seems to be more of a neck issue than a throat issue as no marks on pill from rifling. I am in Auckland.
iirc they used the reamer with a .317 neck dia. Is that correct?
If so you'll need to neck turn your brass, same as mine
Unsure what the neck was chambered too as gunworks just swapped the barrels over. Will look into neck turning as never done that before. Cheers bro
My 284 loads measure .314 - 315 with Nosler brass and 0.315-316 with Norma. Haven’t measured any Winchester brass but have some so can check