@GWH looking at the cost of a neck Turner it would be cheaper for me to have it rechambered!
@GWH looking at the cost of a neck Turner it would be cheaper for me to have it rechambered!
Pretty sure my loads with winchester brass measure about .314 - .315
Have you check the primers are seated properly? I had the same thing happen to me recently. Sized they fitted but loaded they didn't. Turns out a new cartridge to me and even though same brand of brass as I use in other calibers my seater was leaving them a couple of thou proud. Adjusted the seater and problem gone. Hard to see by eye but putting a straight edge across the base showed it up. Since I was only bumping the shoulder back a couple of thou it created a problem as the primer took up more room than there was so a tight on close bolt
So went and saw @chainsaw who was good enough to help me out. Looks like I need to ream the neck again ffs. Loaded ammo measuring 0.3155" would not chamber so think I will get it opened up to 0.317 or 0.319. Any thoughts or suggestions welcome.
The closet deer I have shot with 178 eld x was a Stag at 360 yards, and it sacked him, I haven’t used them enough to say how they go up close, sorry not much help I know.
I mainly run 168 Amax at various ranges which i have been happy with in the 300 wsm and 308 , but have since upgraded the scope on the wsm and am about to run 208 Amax and or 190 VLD Bergers
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@superdiver I run exactly the same setup as Monk, the 178s have been fine from 50 metres all the way out to 500 on deer.
I am running 280Rem/ 150geldx @2850 in Browning A Bolt 22 inch. Killed 4 deer. One Fallow at 200 and two Sika 330m and 445m. And a red hind at 345m all projectiles performed very well- fist sized exit if boiler room hit- if i do my part. Moving to 162g just to try deal with wind a bit more and extra insurance for punch at 400 to 500.
Will AI the shooter for some extra velocity- as i had been toying with changing to Rem mag- but now wont for the reasons others have mentioned- especially because 280 and AI will do all i need + more out to 500 which is my limit.
If i was to try shoting past 500 then probably 7mmrm is a better choice- but with 500 being my limit- 280 does all for me.
Also my bush pig is 7mm08 so possible projectile commonality is handy for sure.
With 7mmrm and bigger- guys using 208g eldx etc- how has performance on deer been inside 600? Woulda thought these may have expansion trouble being heavier maybe punch thru more often than the 160-170s?
Past 500 to 600 they probably work more as designed?? but inside 500 to 600 are the 208s "too much" projectile on NZ deer?
@superdiver 63 gr RE17 with 178 ELDx 2860 FPS .2215 inch to ogive. Norma brass, Fed match Large magnum primer. Fits in mag and shoots 1/4 inch
I'm having to drop down a grain as I'm having pressure issues. Start at 62 gr. Max is 64gr in the Hornady book.
@ANTSMAN - the move to AI might only get you ~40 -50 fps more especially with 22in tube, not saying dont do it, just dont set your hope too high. My 24in 280AI get me 2980 fps with N560 and the old 162AMAXs. That gets me ~875 yards before hitting 1800 fps which is what is use as a default limit for how far to push it. With 22in tube you should be north of 2900 fps
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I have a 24" tikka 7mm RM thats pushing the 162 amax at 3080fps and have just been trying to work up a load for a newly acquired tikka 284 win 19" barrel was really hoping to use the 150 LRAB but it seems it didn't like them at all as the groups were terrible like 2-3" also tried the 162 amax 53g of rl16 at 2680fps and was sitting at about 1 moa so needs a bit of tweaking :) also found the barrel was touching the stock so ill fix that and try again :)
Yeh, LRABs can be like that as could the old 162 AMaxs
Ive a 284 and am running the Amax under 53g RL16 and it is shooting well. You might do well to get the stock sorted. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b8bcc0cafa.jpg
:thumbsup: @kiwijames Nice grp. What speed you getting with RL16 ? I've been running the old AMAX's with RL17 in 22in Tikka 284 for 2930fps for 0.5moa grps.
Yeah pretty happy as this is really only the first dozen shots fired. Don't know speed yet. I'm of the understanding RL16 and RL17 are pretty similar powders for pace so Im expecting 2800+. Worked up from 51g and it tightened up nicely as I got warmer. From a 20" barrel.
How do you find the 162 Amax works for terminal ballistics? I've shot them in my Rem Mag and they go well. I expect they should be fine in the 284 even up close and I still have enough to not have to look (yet) for more.
yeah, perfect fit for short barrelled 284. Have not had chance to use them for anything real close in, but 100+ yards consistently good, so long as you're careful with shot placement. I tend to go for lung shots when ever possible - dont go far without oxygen.
I have a 26" blaser and had a mate cut his to 21" he still held about 2920 with 180 vld hunters from memory
I d be very wary of using them at very close range .I found the 155 amax quite flange able , they blew a large hole on entry hole which was enough for an unlucky porker but on a big animal it might not cause enough damage to kill cleanly.
Yea man he started at 24 with his i started at 26 he cut to 21" as he really wanted an all in one rifle still a tack driver he reckons. I just about cut mine after a ruahine bush hunt a month ago it was at dpt monday of lockdown announcement i chickened out and the good buggers got it back to me tuesday morning un scared. I decided a second rifle was better than cutting the big banger so now its a dedicated southisland rifle stripping stags and bull tahr. Very efficent very powerful and a kitten to shoot. I was very glad to get it back un cut in the end far sooner the second smaller rifle for the tight stuff for the record i was going to go 22" and expected roughly 2950fps 180 berger 69gn rl26 fed 210s
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Ive got a little 16" .284 t3 and love it. Mind you at that short its probably blowing half the powder out the barrel before its burnt so I may aswell have a 308 or similar.! Am getting around 2750 with 150 lrabs. Its nice and short and a joy to carry around but I feel it lacks the grunt for the 500m plus stuff. Anyone here using a 7wsm?
Was just re reading this thread and saw your question re 7mmwsm @tonyd . Loaded max adi load in a friend's 24" rem 700 with 162eldx for 2940fps~. Only shoots about an inch but ES is reasonably good from memory. Verified to 500m but he has only shot a few sika up close with the load so far which didn't disappoint
Yeah nice one, since that post I have had a 21" barrel fitted, spits out 162s not to bad and managed to stretch the barrel on a recent hunt too, just under 900m bull tahr and 716m stag, the .284 seems to go alot better with the new longer barrel that's for sure!