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Team, thoughts and advice on a 7mm08 as a bushpig/shorter barrelled rifle. I know 308 is a common round for this, and I know others have used 7mm08 and 260 as well. I’d just like some thoughts/experience on shorter barrelled 7mm08 please. I know the age old debates between the differing calibers exist but I am operating to a budget and there’s currently a 7mm08 in my range. Thanks Nick
Basically anything will work as a bushpig.
There are guys here running short barrel 284win and 7mm SAUM.
Your are going to loose some velocity but inside of 300m its not going to make much difference.
What length are you looking at most can go 18" with out too much effect my .260 is 18" and has only lost 70fps from it's 22" barrel.
An 18" 7-08 would also loose bugger all if you are a reloader.
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Used a 15 inch 7mm08 for ages works fine. The reason for using the 308 is its slightly more efficient in shorter barrels due to being less overbore (its got a bigger hole compared to case capacity) but in saying that the 6.5 and 7mm projectiles have a higher BC so while they might not quite match muzzle energy or velocity down the line they usually catch up and inside that range all of them kill effectively. I used to get 2500 fps in my 7mm08 with 162 ELD Ms that heaps out to most ranges a non magnum bushpigs planned for. It will work but to be fair depending on what your rifle you own now is you could likely sell it and buy a rifle already cut down for less as they usually sell pretty much the same.
Ive been using an 18" barrelled 708 all summer and have had great results on deer. Im getting 2680 fps with a 140gn ballistic tip. Devastating in close. This stag was shot at 30 paces
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This one a yearling hind , Bang flop at 376 yds
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This one a large bodied stag at 100 yds the other sunday night
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A 7-08 is -fully- up to the job even with a 16"bbl. CFE223 will easily get you 2900fps + with a 120 TTSX and that is death to anything under 350yds, long as you do your bit.
@greenblue
have read of this post https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....39/#post762133
7mm08 will be excellent.
@greenblue
I use a Howa 1500 7mm08 with 16" barrel and Gunworks suppressor for bush hunting. It's pushing the 120g TTSX at 2900fps and getting 0.3" groups at 100yd, which gives me confidence within 250-300yd. If I'm hunting tops I'll usually take my rem mag, but it's good to know if I break the bushline and want to do some tops hunting or come across a decent size clearing, the bush gun with that load will do the job.
Factory Federal blue box 150g gives me 2450 fps and a very similar POI to the TTSX, shooting less than 1" at 100yd, so is a great backup for bush hunting.
Last weekend I tested out the Hornady 139g Superformance ammunition. The box claims 2950fps from a 24" barrel - I was getting 2730 from mine, so losing about 28fps per inch. However, groups were terrible.
Hopefully that helps with your decision, happy to try and answer any questions.
Cheers,
Elliott
I'm running a Kimber 84m in 7mm08. Barrel chopped to 14.2" with a DPT Suppressor.
Does the job brilliantly inside bush shooting ranges with factory corelokt rounds and with a CDS turret, will shoot sika or fallow out to 500yds with handloaded AMAX162s
Use to own a 18” 7mm08 and it worked great out to 400 yards with 139 grain super performance. Am currently thinking about going back to one as i like the short light set up and can still punch out to decent distance on the tops. If its 500 yards away just get 100 yards closer job done. (Should still have well over 1000ft lbs of energy at 500 tho) I say go for the 7mm08 and get into it.
Thanks guys, this is why I ask the questions here, all good information. Anybody had any experience with a weatherby vanguard 2? I understand they are a rebadged howa which seem good. Cheers
Got any pics of it? And did your shorten your forend?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus
I run a 18inch tikka 7mm08 with a vx6 3-18x44 scope.
Works for me from 10meters out to 600meters on fallow and goats.
Managed a decent red stag at 450meters, all using the 162gr amax, still got 300ish stashed away.
I'm constantly amazed at the potency of modern (last 120 odd years) cartridges.
I use 243s with 18.5 inch barrels and find the length perfect with a suppressor (basically factory length)
708 will be more devastating for the same barrel length and will do better if you decide to go shorter
I have a 12.5inch 300blk and it's portability even with a massive suppressor is a major plus when carrying it
Forget resale value and just build the tool you need
I'm sure I've got better photos somewhere, but this gives you an idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Forend isn't altered at all. Barrel was cut specifically for that suppressor, which sits a few mm short of the forend. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3f43b1ab28.jpg
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Sweet little rifle. Didn't really think about it but my suppressors 165mm over barrel 75mm muzzle forward. Knew it gave me a bit extra barrel but not that much. I've got a 17 inch barrel with stock butted up against the stock. Your rifle must be bloody handy being another 1.5" shorter. Bloody good rifles the kimbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus
Totally agree a Montana to 16 to 18”would be mint.
My go to bush/river/slips set up is a 7mm08, 18.5 with a dpt. ( it's relatively quiet too )
I run 150 Federal Hotcors on deer ( work extremely well out to 350, max for me )
Also run the cheaper 140PPU on goats and pigs. Good basic budget bullet IMO.
I've had excellent results to date and yet to try the 120 grainers but I hear good things.
Capable little cartridge and hot on the heals of my 270, so much so I have to do a double take.
Here's a link you might find interesting and made me move to 18.5.
https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...artridge/99199
Thanks that's a good read, although their math's is not the best in the velocity comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER
Thanks for all the advice guys, I was fortunate enough to buy a 7mm08 of the yellow website for a great price. Stay tuned for some more questions as I seek advice around over barrel suppressors and the like! Cheers!
good work, nice cal to start with the 7-08
How far do those red dot sights work out to @MSLQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
I can shoot a fist sized group at 200yards on a 400x400 plate. Havnt shot a deer past 70 but I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
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Yep got an aimpoint on the 260,Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
200m zero and of ya go.
Pretty cool bit of kit.
Makes for an extremely light rig on the tikka.
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Mines got a swaro on it now, but I reckon I’m gunna put the RMR back on it when I get home on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
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What did you buy out of curiosity?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenblue
I bought a weatherby vanguard 2. Took it for its first walk today and was fortunate to drop a pig at just under 200metres. Very happy with the rifle, certainly a model that suits me. Cheers.
My main rig is an ultralight 7mm08 with 17” barrel. Has a full over barrel supressor which gives it a nice balance too. Longest shot was 350m on a nice 12 point red. That’s the max I personally would be comfortable shooting to though.
