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    There is a good millennium on Tm at the moment for 2.5k
    Awesome target rifle and a good option (if you are a right hander)

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    It really depends on what you want to achieve in F-class. At the sharp end, the rifles you listed are not likely to make the grade. Go visit several clubs, shoot with the club rifles and talk to folks, especially those who travel to regional comps and shoot the nationals.

    If you want to have some fun and increase your skills, several of the NI clubs now run a hunter class, which is a much more cost-effective way of getting into longer range shooting. Another option to consider (which the rifles you listed are well suited for) is the precision rifle events run by Gillie on here and groups like Taranaki Long Range shooters.

    The reality of F-class at the sharp end is that it is a very particular animal. It is not your "sub 1 MOA 3-shot group on a good day" territory. You are talking about trying to put 10 shots into a 0.5 MOA X-ring. With standard dispersion that means the rifle should be capable of at least 0.25 MOA. Then you need to build the skills to fire the rifle at that level consistently under match pressure, this takes YEARS... Then on top of that there is the small matter of wind skills...
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    I'm a casual shooter wanting to do more.
    Paper and plink, as they say. Newly retired and time to play with.
    Met the guys of Tara LR at the local gun show.
    With their suggestion, bought the Bergara (6.5) HMR. They had also and thought them the better buy for that style of shooting....
    Friends have Tikka 3s and thought the action much smoother and tighter than theirs.
    Stock trigger heavy (~3lb) and gritty tho still a clean break so need to replace that for sure.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awaian View Post
    I'm a casual shooter wanting to do more.
    Paper and plink, as they say. Newly retired and time to play with.
    Met the guys of Tara LR at the local gun show.
    With their suggestion, bought the Bergara (6.5) HMR. They had also and thought them the better buy for that style of shooting....
    Friends have Tikka 3s and thought the action much smoother and tighter than theirs.
    Stock trigger heavy (~3lb) and gritty tho still a clean break so need to replace that for sure.

    Hope this helps.
    I've got H&F to special order in a Bergara B14 BMP 24" for me to look at, which is the full custom chassis version of the HMR. Going by the price range on full chassis here in NZ (MDT/KRG etc) the BMP seems to be a steal since it has a RRP very close to the Tikka T3 Tac A1 but is $1300 LESS over here? Talk about a mark up on the Tikkas haha.

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    Macca, to be honest the rifle/scope combinations that you have mentioned above are not really what I would describe as either F-Open or FTR type rifles except for the 308 caliber. I consider a FTR rifle to be something like Savages Model 12 FTR or for F-Open their F-class rifles. To be compeditive in F-class here in the States it's not how many you can put in the ten ring but how X's. As mentioned above the Barnard actions are superb. This is a picture of the stock/bipod I ran in FTR, rifle was a basic REM 700 in 308 with a 30 inch barrel, for optics I was using a Nightforce NXS 12-42x56.Name:  2011-11-05_15-48-32_342.jpg
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    @Macca get in touch with Mike Collings ex- commonwealth /Olympic shooter and good bugger ,he will give you some great advice he still shoots every weekend competitively - Mike Collings Gunsmith Whakatane.

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    The Tikka CTR is something to consider also, but as others have said the Varmint/Super Varmint are good contenders also.
    Savage offer a lot of rifles that are very well suited to your task at hand, but you would be less likely to find a store with one in stock to have a look at.

    The biggest problem with most of the stock Tikkas is that the stocks are too light, I think you would quickly want a Boyds or a chassis with a bit more weight and a better weight, too shoot off the various bipod, tripod, bag arrangements used in F class.
    In saying that, I've shoot my .260 Tikka (feather weight barrel) at 300, 500 and 600 yards F class and it was more than capable of holding the 5 ring, so all the rifles you are thinking will be vastly better.

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    buy my omark

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    I second the Barnard action. I wanted to make something better than I am but could not aford to do it in one hit. I wanted a varmint rig and day carry rifle. Barnard SM (repeating action, timmy trigger and 20MOA rail aprox $1600 + gst. Basic boyds stock which I may upgrade later, truflite 24" #3 or #4 contour, $1100 for barrel fitted and bedded and threaded for Hardy gen V. Plus a couple of hundred for floor hard wear and 2 mags. All up with sling and bipod, scope etc 5.8 kg. Well inside your budget.

    I would guess that for F class you would go for a S or P none repeating action.
    Any of those mainstream factory rifles will probably need a session with someone like Mike Collins or Nathan Foster etc.
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    The Barnard P is the heart of a top F-Class rig. The S (I have one) is possibly not ideal to hang a 30+" heavy barrel on. The Millennium (mentioned above) is a fantastic "TR" action but being a four-lug with heavy cocking effort is not ideal for bag shooting as there is too much upset when working the action. All serious target guns are single shots.

    Mike Collings is a -top- TR shooter but would have less interest I'd guess in F or F-TR guns. He'd still be able to give you good advice in general terms.

 

 

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