It's a shame that the Remington 700 isn't very good. They're quite a handsome rifle, good slim lines. Real pity that they're dreadful.
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It's a shame that the Remington 700 isn't very good. They're quite a handsome rifle, good slim lines. Real pity that they're dreadful.
What a load of shit
Slow day on the Coast is it gimp?
Should have come out the range amd ring some steel she was good morning for it
Yeah epic day for it, give us a yell next time you're going, shooting steel would have been an improvement from spilling brake fluid all over my kitchen floor
Yeah, I agree.
The 7 is almost as good as a Tikka IMHO.
What's not to like? For 1/3 the initial cost of a sako you can afford to buy one, and then add a perfect fitting stock and a match grade barrel and still have change left over to buy some reloading dies and brass and still come in cheaper than the sako's purchase price and you now have a lighter and more accurate rifle.
Kj
Clearly is bored and put up a troll post but i take the bait :thumbsup:. Its always good to know the "dreadful" rem 700 is very popular and is the best selling production hunting sporter in history. Still in use by some police and military snipers and for a simple, reasonable cheap rifle that been working for the last 53 years with the most calbres avaiable ,has one of the most dependable actions and is generally darn accurate not bad for something thats clearly "dreadful" for its low price:thumbsup: and the best after market parts avaliable
I like mine.
Liked it enough to withdraw it from sale.
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I like mine.
nothing wrong with my remmy700 i like it and i don't care what people think
I like my 700, it's just like me - reliable, accurate but at the same time, rough, slightly ugly and a touch on the heavy side...
I'm from the "don't tell me, show me" school of thought. To date I've been out shot by a few guys with standard sako rifles out to about 400 to maybe 500m. The reason for this is simple, I'm not the best shooter around and it's the man behind the rifle beating me every time... Aka Baghera
Beyond 500m I can't think of anyone using a bog standard sako ever out shooting me. The reason for this is equally simple, my custom rem700 shoots better than a standard sako does, so I now have the advantage even though many others are much better shots than I am. Their equipment is now limiting them.
Now a custom sako is another story... Enter Gillie who will hand you a beating every time with his custom made sako, this is because it's now a level playing field again (both rifles are just as capable as each other) and it's the person who's simply better at shooting that wins.
Kj
I agree with Gimp. My Rem 700 6 x 47 is absolute crap! Just look at this pathetic .3 group. I've had enough. Tried everything and not once has it got in the .1. Ive chucked it to the back of the cabinet and it can stay there for all I care.
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I'd be gutted also, it's not even in the centre
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:) This is hardly a fair comparison Kim! There are so many variables at play that to limit your comparison to rifle brand is simply unrealistic. In my experience it is almost always the shooter that makes the difference and not the rifle. There are a couple of games that the rifle has a big influence on e.g. benchrest and F-class, but they still need a good shooter to drive them well.
To me it is simple - if you want a dirty, crappy Remington with their quality control so good that you're just as likely to be able to fire a 270 in your so called 308 - get one then. If you want a blaser with its plastic washer, stupid slam shut action and drop out mag that also drops out the trigger - then get one. If you want a savage with its god ugly bolt - then get one. If you want a plastic fantastic tikka or a kimber with their horrible stock design - then go ahead and get one. But if you want a elegant, beautifully made, practical, reliable, accurate rifle out of the box with a great, user adjustable trigger and a flush fitting, drop out, double stack mag that you can also feed through the action in a rifle that will hold it value - then get a sako cause you can garun-fu#kin-tee it will do all this, make you look cool, cook you dinner, walk your dog and still find the time to magically hit the target every time you wave it generally in the right direction. Just don't take them in the hills - you might scratch it and forever after every time you look at it, you will feel it judging you! :thumbsup:
Bottom line, as long as you are comfortable with your rifle, you shoot it well, and it does what you want it to then who cares what it is and what others think about it! :D
BTW, this post might be slightly bias because just as Kim is a Remington fan, I might be a slight sako fan
That's probably the only fault of the finnlight, the stocks aren't super durable.
Don't worry gimp, you get used to it. I have about 5 of them - all with various scratches and dings. They all judge me but i didn't buy them to look at - they all get a fair amount of use!
Yeah that rubber ST coating is garbage but I also don't really care if it rubs off because it doesn't actually do anything much
I was thinking about the resale thing the other day. Talking round rrp figures and then what I see on trademe and also talking rifles sold in good condition.
Sako 85 new $3000, will be had for $2000 on trademe = 33% loss
Tikka t3 new $1200, will be had for $900 on trademe = 25% loss
You can actually get a 2nd hand sako for cheaper than that usually as well...
I reckon it's a fair comparison if comparing cost of the two rifles. You can have a standard sako or a better shooting modified Remington for the same cost. A standard Remington is a pretty hit and miss affair in regards to accuracy, but throw on a shillen barrel and true the action, pick a stock of your choice and your still under $3k.
I totally agree it's always the shooter that is the biggest variable, no arguments there.
And yes I'm totally bias on this, but it not that I don't own any sako's as I do... I just never use them as they rust like fuck and weigh 2lb more than my Remington does, so my bias is based on experience.
Kj
One of the skeletons in my closet
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/a...imjon/sako.jpg
Sako in .308.... Yes I'm not proud, but we all have dirty secretes
I have been wanting a sako since I was 16