Ok so theres alot of talk around re the changes in law potentially in Dec
Can some one please tell me that i need to do to ensure an AR 15 stays an A cat rifle?
thanks
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Ok so theres alot of talk around re the changes in law potentially in Dec
Can some one please tell me that i need to do to ensure an AR 15 stays an A cat rifle?
thanks
Only god knows, wait til Dec. I have 1 E and 3 A's and would like to keep them all that way if possible. I am adopting a wait and see attitude.
Yup, it just 1 big cluster fuck!
They reckon (police) thumbhole stocks will be legit, so they say.
If there's no option for 'continue as you were' I'm gonna be Real Mad.
For anyone interested I have the minutes of the police arms advisory meeting (it's on their website too) as well as the illustration of what they want to be legit. PM me if interested.
There is a pdf file floating around I can email it to you if you wish
Bevis coukd you copy and paste it here?
I should point out to you guys that this may not be final, but it is in line with police comments during the meeting.
Is this it?
Firearms Community Advisory Forum Minutes - 18 June 2013 | New Zealand Police
Looks like they want to put things back the way it was before all the butt hole pain.
The firearms community advisory couldn't really have been made up by a better bunch :thumbs:
There are some background communications going on (outside the ostensible firearms advisory forum 'FAF') which may result in the FAF efforts being superseded. There is an issue that the proposals of the FAF (which are not binding on anyone), if adopted by police and accepted by the OPC, would fall outside the scope of the delegated powers because (a) those proposals are well beyond what Parliament intended them to be; (b) The proposals are diametric to the working purpose of the Arms Act. Regulations so made, will be struck out as ultra vires and in conflict with purpose.
Police have already breached their own framework of the FAF by appointing thereto a chair that represents only the commercial interests of a group of one (himself) and omitted any adequate representation of civilian gun owners. This gives rise to another ground of judicial review.
Upshot being that, at the moment, probably best not to make any plans around the FAF proposals.
Lol the guys that were at the meeting. who commented about it on the other board, said it was a rubber stamping exercise and opinions against the police proposals were not welcome. It's a load of shit.
An open bolt conversion will fly for, oh, about as long as it takes Joe and Co to change this:
Military style semi*automatic firearm means—
(a) A firearm which, after being loaded, fires, ejects, and
chambers a cartridge with each pull of the trigger;
To this
Military style semi*automatic firearm means—
(a) A firearm which, after being loaded, fires, ejects, and
chambers, or chambers, fires and ejects, a cartridge with each pull of the trigger
Admittedly that could be quite some time but is such a conversion really worth the cost and effort...
I doubt it.
A dude on the other board tried to import some p mags for his manually operated AR and was told no because even though his AR isn't semi auto, since it started life as a semi auto, then in an unnamed policeman's opinion, it is still a semi auto. So unfortunately it will probably require court action to determine what a straight pull is, or isn't.
Meh. Which can just as simply be modified thus:
“semi-automatic firearm means a firearm that (if it is loaded), with each pull of the trigger, and in no particular order—
“(a)fires a cartridge and ejects its case; and
“(b)(unless all cartridges loaded have been fired) chambers another cartridge”.
I thought this might be a good thread to ask this question.
Where do I find current NZ regs on AR15 ownership - assuming I am a NZ citizen with a NZ FAL ?
Are there additional regs over and above a bolt action rifle ?
I have been looking at getting a Mossberg MMR Hunter that comes standard with a 5 round magazine.
Mossberg & Sons | 29100
I know that it does not have the dust cover and forward assist but for $650 (street pricing - see Guns for Sale - Online Gun Auction - Buy Guns at GunBroker.com) I can live with that.
Mossberg MMR Hunter Review - Guns & Ammo
Also sounds like the trigger has some limitations.
Is anyone familiar with these Rock River Arms triggers ?
ROCK RIVER ARMS - AR-15 NATIONAL MATCH 2-STAGE TRIGGER
AR-15 NATIONAL MATCH 2-STAGE TRIGGER | Brownells
Thanks.
any one ever thort that it mite not matter what you do or don't do and the restriction may get put onto the name of the weapon.
Eg Remington R15.
End of story Ecat.
Last week i asked an arms officer if i could put a A cat ar over onto my E license..Nope sorry..swap out still apply's
Going to be very interesting
So in what your saying your more then likely to be correct,,
Option a (issue e cat)
Option b (they have no idea u have it so save it for a rainy day,,)
Option c ( as above )
Going to be alot of ar15s in Marley tubes buried around the country, :XD:
The likely hood and amount of AR15's ending up in bits of Marley will depend on how reasonable or unreasonable the new regulations are. Balls in their court.
Putting firearms into pipes and burying them is childish and irresponsible if it just because you don't want to get an E endorsement or a thumbhole stock. What's the point in burying it? You might as well sell it because you can't use it while it's buried.
People need to wait and see what is going to happen rather than speculate and wind each other up with unfounded theories. Not aimed you Beavis.
Was talking to the AO and vetting officer a couple days ago. They pretty much just acknowledge that more than a few will end up "under ground" so to speak. I can't really see much point in burying them in the garden either.
I'll be more annoyed if there's Police controlled random checks at ranges due to the said behaviour of numpties, which slows down my shooting opportunities.
One would hope that if some body was intent on owning a not so legal firearm they would at least have the mental capacity not to take it to a recognized range.