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    Quote Originally Posted by tiroatedson View Post
    I’m gonna hijack the thread a little.

    I’ve seen two ARs for sale in two different shops. One was a CJA with a thumb hole stock and the other a Windham (I think) with a better stock (in my opinion). Both A cats. The difference was $200. My question is..are the CJAs that bad?? Or are you better off paying a bit more to get Murican made..?

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    American made doesn't mean anything. Most of the American made ARs you find in NZ stores are the lowest end 'budget' models from their respective manufacturers (Ruger AR556, Bushmaster/Windham Carbon, DPMS Oracle, Colt Expanse, etc). A CJA would be just as good or better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    American made doesn't mean anything. Most of the American made ARs you find in NZ stores are the lowest end 'budget' models from their respective manufacturers (Ruger AR556, Bushmaster/Windham Carbon, DPMS Oracle, Colt Expanse, etc). A CJA would be just as good or better.
    I would say the upper and lower castings in US AR15s are all the same until you get into real fancy models. The cheap US bolts are finished a lot better than the CJA ones and who knows about the springs etc. Never shot a CJA but at a $200 difference I wouldn't bother. Chinese ARs are a $600 rifle in Canada (I assume made the same) so should be a $700 rifle here. Since only Gun City brings them in they charge a premium and market them as an equivalent to a low end US rifle. IE charge a fortune for something quite cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    I would say the upper and lower castings in US AR15s are all the same until you get into real fancy models. The cheap US bolts are finished a lot better than the CJA ones and who knows about the springs etc. Never shot a CJA but at a $200 difference I wouldn't bother. Chinese ARs are a $600 rifle in Canada (I assume made the same) so should be a $700 rifle here. Since only Gun City brings them in they charge a premium and market them as an equivalent to a low end US rifle. IE charge a fortune for something quite cheap.
    So CJA in terms of build quality the lower end of the spectrum..?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiroatedson View Post
    So CJA in terms of build quality the lower end of the spectrum..?


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    IMHO the finish is definitely sub par, the function, accuracy and longevity is something I cant really cant comment on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiroatedson View Post
    So CJA in terms of build quality the lower end of the spectrum..?


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    They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles.

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    Not a lot to inspire confidence then huh... thanks for the info..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    They're a bit of an unknown bag. There's no info on the materials, manufacturing processes or quality control procedures (if any), but they do have chrome lined barrels and carriers which gives some indication that they didn't cut every corner like some of the low end US rifles have.

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    Then again, some people consider the Norinco AKs to be superior to the Russian AKs.

 

 

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