Thread: Barnard SMS action problem

Is there anyone on the forum running a Barnard SMS action?
I am having trigger issues with mine (failing to cock) and would like to compare the cocking piece on mine with one that is working properly.
Preferably Waikato/BOP/Auckland.

Is the firing pin shaft not engaging with the lever, or is it the sear not engaging in the trigger. Mine are Barnard P actions but I suspect the trigger is pretty well the same. I am in Auckland if you need to compare yours.........

The cocking piece on the firing pin is engaging with the trigger sear but the cocking piece is contacting the bolt shroud before the bolt gets far enough forward to close. If I unscrew the bolt shroud a few turns the cocking piece gets far enough back for the bolt to close.
I understand the SMS action uses a different cocking piece than the P action so would like to find a SMS to compare mine with.

I have the Timney trigger hanger option and have tried a Timney, TriggerTech and Remington trigger, all have the same issue.
Another option might be to try a Barnard trigger to see if that works.

Send me your phone number via PM- Ill contact you tonight. Im running a jewel on my SMS though.

Thanks Jaco, PM sent

If I recall correctly there are different length sears for some action designs, changing out the sear for one that matches your cocking piece length might be the answer (rather than swapping the whole trigger).

Talking to Jaco (another top bloke on the forum) last night the Barnard S and P cocking pieces are quite different.
Possibly mine was assembled with the wrong one so will track down a S cocking piece and try that first.

Originally Posted by duckdog

Talking to Jaco (another top bloke on the forum) last night the Barnard S and P cocking pieces are quite different.
Possibly mine was assembled with the wrong one so will track down a S cocking piece and try that first.

Good luck getting any Barnard parts now they have shut down the operation. If you could draw all the relevant dimensions it should become apparent where the sear needs to be in respect of the firing pin and position the trigger housing on the action to suit.....the technical term is "timing the action"