Thread: Browning X bolt Hells Canyon Speed

Originally Posted by R93

Frigging dumb ass name for a rifle but does anyone on here own one?

If so what do you think of it.
Accurate enough?

It comes chambered in a caliber I am interested in and could be a reasonable option for a guide rifle.


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The Mcarbo trigger spring is an easy upgrade for the X-Bolt rifles.

The Hells Canyon name could have something to do with the Hells Canyon Recreational Area - not too far from the Browning offices in Utah.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/wal...51353&actid=54

16.8" moa come up

Fair call

Surely there are better options than VLD's. They are a match bullet despite the "Hunting" in the name
Personally Id never shoot a match bullet at an animal I prefer to use bullets designed for purpose.

Originally Posted by Tribrit

Surely there are better options than VLD's. They are a match bullet despite the "Hunting" in the name
Personally Id never shoot a match bullet at an animal I prefer to use bullets designed for purpose.

So you’ve never used them?

Originally Posted by MSL

So you’ve never used them?

Nope never used them, so i'm only going on feeling and looking at the way they are constructed.

160gr Nosler Partition seems to do the job for me

Originally Posted by Tribrit

Surely there are better options than VLD's. They are a match bullet despite the "Hunting" in the name
Personally Id never shoot a match bullet at an animal I prefer to use bullets designed for purpose.

You mean some lead wrapped in copper? Mate don't knock it until you try it. They are bloody good. 6.5, 7mm, 30 cal all kill well

Originally Posted by Gibo

You mean some lead wrapped in copper? Mate don't knock it until you try it. They are bloody good. 6.5, 7mm, 30 cal all kill well

Yep, I’ve used them exclusively in my fatmax for about six years, they kill exceptionally well.

Originally Posted by Tribrit

Surely there are better options than VLD's. They are a match bullet despite the "Hunting" in the name
Personally Id never shoot a match bullet at an animal I prefer to use bullets designed for purpose.

I hear ya and shared your sentiments until I witnessed the performance of said bullets in all situations and on different animals myself.

I use them because I trust them to do the job if placed properly.
There are no magic bullets out there in my experience anyway.
The Amax is/was a favorite among many and is a match bullet.




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Never had a scope issue. It is all in the prep for the shot. Had plenty of people question caliber tho.

I have learned off of better and more experienced guides than me to treat every clients shot, as if it is their first at an animal.
Set them up for the shot and inform them what to expect and do in case of a bad shot or miss.


I always warn them out that I might be a little micro managing as far as shooting goes. If it bothers them it is certainly forgotten when they have an animal on the ground.

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Originally Posted by R93

Never had a scope issue. It is all in the prep for the shot. Had plenty of people question caliber tho.

I have learned off of better and more experienced guides than me to treat every clients shot, as if it is their first at an animal.
Set them up for the shot and inform them what to expect and do in case of a bad shot or miss.


I always warn them out that I might be a little micro managing as far as shooting goes. If it bothers them it is certainly forgotten when they have an animal on the ground.

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Yeah hey each to there own was just a heads up incase it was something you hadn't considered,
It was certainly something I hadnt,
I guess it's a bit different for me as 85% of our clients are first timers on there first animals as that's our market.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

Yeah hey each to there own was just a heads up incase it was something you hadn't considered,
It was certainly something I hadnt,
I guess it's a bit different for me as 85% of our clients are first timers on there first animals as that's our market.


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Never encountered it, so no haven't considered it.
I will now tho when I decide on a setup.
I learned that I was far to trusting of shooting ability for a start.
So I try to eliminate any doubt by micro managing the setup and shot.

A lot of people from overseas without trying to be condisending lack the ability to shoot from any position except prone.
They can't snap shoot and need plenty of time. Took a while for me to get used to it.

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I've used them @MSL. The ultimate "Marmite" bullet. Once bitten, twice shy.

I'd dead keen to getting proper hunting performance examples of the current range of Bergers at longer ranges. Its so hard to get objective feedback from guys willing to share the fails as well as the successes.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I've used them @MSL. The ultimate "Marmite" bullet. Once bitten, twice shy.

I'd dead keen to getting proper hunting performance examples of the current range of Bergers at longer ranges. Its so hard to get objective feedback from guys willing to share the fails as well as the successes.

So far have never had a fail with the bergers I use. Will I? Most definitely, but so far so good.

I don't like shooting at animals beyond say 450yrds. In good conditions I reckon it is the new 250 yrd shot with a good setup and high mag scope.

I mainly target chamois and Thar. They couldn't be further apart in terms of what it takes to kill or sit one down for a follow up shot.
Chamois skin is no thicker than a rabbits
Where as a bull Thar has almost half an inch of hide and plenty of thick hair before it.
It can, depending on where they bed get matted with shale and gravel causing blowups when hit with any projectile.
The hair can confuse a lot of people of where to aim. Sounds stupid but it's true. Especially if front on.
I don't buy into the myth that Thar are hard to kill. If hit properly they will expire as fast as any other animal. It's just they can have plenty of obsticals to avoid opposed to other animals we hunt here.
The projectiles I am happy with, have taken a few types of deer, Thar and chamois at all sorts of ranges out to 400ish and have so far been perfect which I admit to being sceptical of prior to using them.







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Originally Posted by Flyblown

I've used them @MSL. The ultimate "Marmite" bullet. Once bitten, twice shy.

I'd dead keen to getting proper hunting performance examples of the current range of Bergers at longer ranges. Its so hard to get objective feedback from guys willing to share the fails as well as the successes.

I’ve had one ‘fail’ with the 180gr hybrid. Shot a spiker broadside shoulder shot and the jacket blew up on the skin. That was at 265 yards, the lead core sailed on through doing its job. The spiker expired instantly.