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Hello,
I'm located in the United States, but my sister and brother in law are located in NZ. So my question is can I send them an 80% lower for Charismas sense it's not a firearm? The ATF has already determined 80% lower are not firearms in the U.S, but I don't know how the authorities in NZ feel about it.
Thanks in advance.
while its not technically a rifle im thinking you need a import permit
anything ar15 is under great scrutiny at the moment
Yeah, pretty sure they are going to treat it as a standard lower, and hence a firearm. Not worth the risk. As far as I know there is no legal president for it here, and given the current climate I think you would be asking for trouble.
Do you guys have anything like the ATF in NZ?
worse, we have a police force represented by a u.n controlled puppet and a government full of greenies who would have us all become sandal wearing vegans
Also, known as Hipsters in the United States. Next you will all have man buns.
Do you guys have anything like the NRA?
Under NZ law an 80% lower has exactly the same classification as the completed part and would require an Import Permit.
Yep. +1 on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
Is it easy to import single shot rifles VS semi auto AR's? If so couldn't you do like we did in California and install a bullet button and mag sled? Thus rendering it a single shot rifle and not an "evil" AR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_button
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upka4R3JGWs
they are both just the same to importQuote:
Originally Posted by California
I found it thanks.
In terms of ‘parts’. ‘Part’ is defined in section 2 of the Arms Act 1983 as:
part—
(a) in relation to a pistol, restricted weapon, or military style semi-automatic firearm, includes any thing, such as a butt, stock, magazine, silencer, or sight, which, while not essential for the discharge by a pistol, restricted weapon, or military style semi-automatic firearm of any shot, bullet, missile, or other projectile, is designed or intended to be an integral part of a pistol, restricted weapon, or military style semi-automatic firearm; and
(b) in relation to any other firearm, means the action for that firearm
I will NEVER wear a man-bun! No matter how much of that vegan-do-not-assume-my-gender shit is force-fed into me.
:D So your not the non-binary gender / gender fluid type of person? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by kidmac42
I have a gender and there are certain fluids I like to drink, does that count?
There are still locally available complete lowers for around NZ $200.
So there isn’t really a demand for an 80% lower and the paperwork involved.
Whatever gundoc said goes
There's no NRA here
We love freedom too much to need some sort of ticket-punching bullshit organising committee here
Do what you want
Your talking to it now:XD:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by California
you can send me one @California
hey man, my jandals are closely related to sandals.Quote:
Originally Posted by gone-tropo
You take that back. Just cos the name sounds the same does not make it so, Sandals and Jandals are as different as a falling block versus a lever action- similar to a numpty who does not know the difference but very different. Like Carob and Choclate, Tea or Coffee or KFC or Pizza.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
You find Jandals on normal people, you find sandals on all sorts of oddfellows....Its worse when they put socks on (Which they cannot do with jandals easily)
Hipsters are slightly different here. They are almost metro-sexuals....The ones that the greenies are closer to a cross between a hippy and a rabid environmentalist- dont use deodorant, vegan, long unkempt hair, rides an E-Bike and generally nuttier than a box of peanut flavoured fruit loops...One lot reckoned they could organise a group called "Predator Free NZ" and spend $20m on getting rid f every predator pest in NZ - Their definition of predator is Rabbit (Herbivore) Possum (Mostly herbivore apart from a few eggs) Goats (Herbivore) Deer (Herbivore) Tahr (Another herbivore) and Mustilids (Actual predators.....) Not a clue between them...And on top of that, If rabbits could be successfully removes from NZ for as little as $20m then the farmers in the south island would have succeeded decades ago....Quote:
Originally Posted by California
I prefer our system to that in the US, where they have ITAR who make legislation no one understands, gets interpreted a thousand different ways and if you get it wrong you go to prison. Getting a free import permit is far easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by gone-tropo
We must go to the same church as you have summed up my my feelings exactly (although I have added a bit)Quote:
Originally Posted by gone-tropo
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Originally Posted by timattalon
Yup..... just type that into your google and you too can view what I was trying to attach....
I'm pretty sure you posted Russia's nuclear arming codes @40mm.
That the longest translation of the word "Scuffs......"Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
The Kremlin are coming for you... You best go hide.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40mm
That silly shit won't fly here, an 80% lower is still obviously an AR Lower.
Convicted felons being able to buy 80% lowers and skip their background check in the US is fucked, needs to be clamped down on big time.
ITAR is based off ATF regulations.
There are 400 - 600 million firearms in the United States. Unfortunately if there's a will there's a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWuce
yep so just anoying US rules that stop us giving that economy a boostQuote:
Originally Posted by California
ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (items listed on the U.S. Munitions List) may only be shared with U.S. Persons. I'm actually register with ITAR, they take 2,500 dollars per year from me and I never see them.Quote:
Originally Posted by res
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/22/121.1Quote:
Originally Posted by res
I think you just repeted what I said back to me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by California
Almost. However, everyone feeds the military industrial complex. EVERYONE!Quote:
Originally Posted by res
So is an 80% lower classified as “the action of a firearm”?
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That is how both police and customs have been treating them in NZQuote:
Originally Posted by hunt_fish