Thread: Can I still hunt with a 4 shot Browning BAR

Can I still hunt with my BAR 4 shot Browning, only want an "Expert" answer, no guessing.

Yes you can until the new legislation comes through, then it will be banned.

3 Shot BAR ??

With hinged Mag ??

Show me the exact reference (copy paste),please

The exact writings Ive seen are very vague at best.....

Originally Posted by stug

Yes you can until the new legislation comes through, then it will be banned.

Mega-10 and Bunning's have been selling a lot of 150mm PVC pipe with 2 blank off ends and tube of silicon
In 1.2 - 1.5m lengths
Wonder why

Sarvo..the way I read it is any semi auto that has more than 5 rounds...the problem I see with our BARs is that they are semi auto,less than 5 rounds,but can be “modified””changed” to carry more than 5 rounds

The hinged mags can be removed and a larger capacity magazine installed....well if that the case,any gun can be modified!

Originally Posted by Sarvo

3 Shot BAR ??

With hinged Mag ??

The Order in Council established a new definition of an MSSA, requiring an E cat endorsement to use it
3 Certain semi-automatic firearms declared to be military style semi-automatic firearms
For the purposes of the Arms Act 1983, the following firearms are declared to be military style semi-automatic firearms:
(a)
a semi-automatic firearm that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch or less rimfire cartridges) that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges:
(b)
a semi-automatic firearm that is a shotgun and that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges.

Browning BAR doesn't fit the definition under (a)

Which means at the moment it is an A-Cat firearm. The new legislation banning all centrefire semi -autos has not been passed yet, so is not law. After it is passed ALL centrefire semi-autos are called a "Prohibited Firearm" there is no exemption for magazine style or size for centrefire semi-auto's.

Originally Posted by A330driver

Sarvo..the way I read it is any semi auto that has more than 5 rounds...the problem I see with our BARs is that they are semi auto,less than 5 rounds,but can be “modified””changed” to carry more than 5 rounds

Not sure how - remove the hinged floor plate maybe and adapt (or maybe you can buy) an external mag in
Does this look like something "anyone" would consider modifying
Can you imagine watching this go through the grinder :-(

Quote”Browning BAR doesn't fit the definition under (a)

...so what am I missing

Sarvo..that’s exactly what I’m talking about,mine is the same,and talking to my gun nut mate,he reckons that setup can be modified to carry a 10 round mag.....that language “the ability to be modified”is where I have an issue

As I understand it,that will be challenged

Quote..Which means at the moment it is an A-Cat firearm. The new legislation banning all centrefire semi -autos has not been passed yet, so is not law. After it is passed ALL centrefire semi-autos are called a "Prohibited Firearm" there is no exemption for magazine style or size for centrefire semi-auto's.

Broncos sports in Tauranga are still selling bars

Originally Posted by A330driver

As I understand it,that will be challenged

Quote..Which means at the moment it is an A-Cat firearm. The new legislation banning all centrefire semi -autos has not been passed yet, so is not law. After it is passed ALL centrefire semi-autos are called a "Prohibited Firearm" there is no exemption for magazine style or size for centrefire semi-auto's.

I'm too f/n old to get this confused. Asked an Arms Officer who specialises in imports, he couldn't or wouldn't say.

Originally Posted by sometimes1

Broncos sports in Tauranga are still selling bars

Someone told me Gun City was but you needed E cat.

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Mega-10 and Bunning's have been selling a lot of 150mm PVC pipe with 2 blank off ends and tube of silicon
In 1.2 - 1.5m lengths
Wonder why

When semi autos got banned in Australia plastic pipe and end caps sold out nationwide apparently