Probably seems like a dumb question to most on here but...enlighten me.
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Probably seems like a dumb question to most on here but...enlighten me.
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Yep, with a rebarrel.
Cheaper to start with a 7mm08 tho, then it's just a rechamber.
With either, you can also change to a long action mag and bolt stop to be able to get the most out of the 284 by seating the bullets out further.
Look for a cheap 7mm08 Tikka T3 on Trademe, they come up from time to time. Re-chamber that with a long bolt stop and you have arguably a rather capable rifle. Brass isn't too cheap, but if you don't chop the barrel its good to 1000y
It's ok if you want a 30-284 but if you were after a 7mm-284 or 6.5-284 would need the appropriate caliber barrel to start with or you already had the T3 and wanted custom 284 barrel put on?
Looking at getting a t3 for a good price but in 308, wanting to go 284 and the plan was always to go custom barrel even if I had a 7mm
You probably be better to buy a long action cartridge one to start with. Then you won't need a new magazine and bolt stop. There is a reasonably priced 270 on tardme at the moment.
If you are getting a new barrel the easiest option is a 270, 25-06, 30-06 etc as then the magazine is already long and bolt stop done.
You could also make it work with a 243, 7-08, 308, 260 etc.
Just going off a bit of advice really. If I can get this 308 for a good price then I'm saving at least $300 which will take a fair chunk out of a barrel. The mag isn't an issue as I would want to go 5 clip regardless so only thing extra would be the bolt stop?
Slightly off track here but does the T3 6.5x55 have the long mag/bolt stop?
Only need the bolt stop, you can modifying the existing one, but gun works sell replacement ones that are stronger than the factory one, not that I've ever had any issues.
The factory Tikka barrels are held in high regards by most people, they are made by Sako. If you are going to a aftermarket barrel the same length and contour as the factory one, you would save a lot of money by just going for a re-chamber. If it's a heavy or a long barrel you are after, obviously the factory one is no good (unless it's a varmint).
Why 284?
^^^ what he said...genuinely interested to hear any negatives. I want a setup nice and light, easy to carry that can push out to 500/600 yards if needed.
If you Gunna go custom barrel better go for a 708 as I think you will get more $$$for it as a re sell
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I have a t3 in 284win. Started life as a 7mm08. Sent to gunworks to rechamber the factory barrel at a cost of just $150.
It has the long mag and bolt stop. The barrel is chopped to 17" running a Dpt magnum suppressor. Doesn't need the magnum, but the magnum with more rear spacing brings the suppressor right back to the end of the foreend (which I like).
I run the 162g Amax at 2740 fps which holds 1000 ft lbs of energy to 800+ yards.
It is very accurate and Id happily shoot a deer at 600 yards with it. (Have shot 8 inch gongs at 640 yards).
It's now one of my favorite rifles as its a real 'do it all' rifle for me.
Expensive brass, minimal factory ammo, kicks more than a 6.5mm alternative.
Arguably 6.5x55, 6.5 Creedmoor or .260 will suit that purpose better as they are all more than capable of 600 yards and more.
260 and 6.5x55 are available in all Tikka models from factory, and a few available in 6.5 Creedmoor.
6.5x55 has a lot of factory ammo available, and lots of brass available. The 6.5CM and 260 have Lapua brass that doesn't need to re resized unlike 284 (from 6.5-284).
260 and 6.5CM will fit a short action (not that you will save any weight using a Tikka T3), and all three kick less than a 284.
Nothing wrong with the 284 at all, but within 600yards there are plenty of caliber options that will do the job, even a standard 7mm08 will do that easily.
Yes those cals you mention can all perform well too, but the 284 works well for me in a short 17" barrel. I wanted to be suppressed but didn't want the total length including suppressor to be any longer than the factory 22" barrel. I think I'm at 21" total now.
And 284 with the 162g with the magnum suppressor is a real pussy to shoot too.
My 17" 284 T3 features in this video
https://youtu.be/yeoqULlzDN8
So would the 308 :D
Was just a comment, very defensive mate :P
My experience is that the standard 6.5 chamberings can be slow killers at or over 400 yards. With a short barrel, more so. If I was often shooting 300 - 600 yds I would want something with a bit more oomph through a heavier bullet than 130-140 of the 6.5. An 18"-20" .284 and 160 grn bullet at 2,800 -2,900 fps will suit that nicely.
I've seen Craigc's .284 used enough to know I would prefer it at 400 yds to my 6.5.
Just this one boy's opinion though.
Information born of experience is the most valuable @Tahr. As as for opinion, that"s all any of us have to offer on such subjects.
I reamed a 7mm08 to 284, if your going custom barrel as others have said you would be better starting with a long action calibre
So, would a 280Rem be a better alternative to the 284? They seem to have very similar case capacity and are both 7mm.
GWH: thanks for that explanation. What sort of T3 mag will feed 284 cases? - the 284 case is a bit fatter than 270, etc.
308 is a great cal.
It is.
Interesting at how everyone seems to be shooting deer at 600 yards with 7mm08's however. I know they have a decent BC but you wouldn't catch me shooting shit at anything over 400 with one.
284 reamed from a 708 as above mentioned does a decent job when pushed hard, remember though that some compare the 708 or 284 loaded hard to a standard 7Rm which is not an accurate comparison.
The 284 is a super cool caliber, easy to load and mine were accurate and loading from 140-162 pills is a great advantage.
+1 for what Tahr said the 7mm is always going to have superior terminal performance over 6.5's at extended ranges (400+) . I own both 6.5's and 7mm's including 284 (20 in bbl). Hard to fault the 284 if you want a significant jump up over 7mm08 and want to stay with a "short action/barrel", ie shorter than 280 and 24 in bbl. My 284 is around 5 1/2 lb bare rifle & with a DPT suppressor its a dream to shoot - very mild recoil. Getting 2850 fps with 160 TMK's or 162 AMAX. Only downsides with 284 are no factory ammo & limited options in brass .... if you hand load neither is an issue. Cant understand why this calibre has not proven more popular.
Yep for those that are restricted to factory ammo the 308 wins hands down in that regard. I haven't purchased factory ammo for years, and doubt i ever will again. Handloading certainly opens up the possibilities thats for sure, ie nice slippery high BC bullets transforms the 7mm cartridges without suffering excessive recoil.
What's appealing to me with the 284 is it is a very efficient caliber in a short barrel. As for why it's not more popular? maybe the 7mm rem mag rules for flatter trajectory and more energy in a standard rifle and factory ammo. For the 284 hand loading is needed to gets the best out of it. Know one in the USA wants to chop a 284 barrel down because they can't use a suppressor for hunting in a lot of states.
The Duleys made and did a great job advertising there version 284 which made it popular here in NZ and it's a practical everyday hunting rifle.