Made a short film comparing these 2 bipod designs. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-WkipfKzo
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Made a short film comparing these 2 bipod designs. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-WkipfKzo
Good video. Can you talk?
Yes, but Nz accents sound terrible on film, foreigners find it hard to understand us sometimes, and it would take 4x longer to film with re-takes etc.
I guess that's a pretty valid reason never thought about it like that.
Nice video. I have the same criticisms of the harris bipods. My versapod setup is still going strong. A little flex certainly seems to help.with grip.when loading
Good vid with viusal comparrisons gimp,they work for layman guys like me.Can I make a request? mid priced range finders.
Good comparison Gimp. Enjoyed it
Another very good video Gimp.What model is that one?
Just had a look at B&T and see there is 3 different models.
Sorry, mine is the model with ADM QD throw-lever rail clamp - BT10-LW17
The other 2 models are identical to it, except one comes with no clamp at all, the other comes with a screw-on rail clamp.
Ok,thanks for that :)
Very good video, I wish that there were more reviews like this - sure would save a lot of wasted money.
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Great vid. The atlas is a bit more expensive, but definitely seems to be better. I like the ability to change feet and legs. The Mono pod they do is also very awesome. Seems like they will be a nice set for my next rifle.
Cool review. Important points well covered. If they could attach without the rail I would probably get one. Also there is no mention of cost.
Can you get the attachment rail to mount via the sling swivel ????
A bit more expensive :)
That is the main issue for me when I was looking for something for my bigger rigs, I wanted to get a few.....
They seemed to be a bit flimsey when angled forward, compared to the Harris.
The panning feature is nice, but I have heard on bigger calibres that it can cause issues with recoil management.
Their monopods are very nice & work very well, I have a couple.
I'm happy with my Harris podlocked & spiked bipods, they are ecomomical & do the job very well, except on bonnents :)
Nothing is perfect for all, everyone has different requirements & opinions.
Once you start putting pod locs, aftermarket feet, QD mount etc on the Harris it ends up costing basically the same if not more, and you can't just add $35 leg extensions to the Harris to get a higher bipod. It's false economy. It's also much easier to swap one between multiple rifles with the QD. You can only shoot one at a time..
This has been a great thread. I'm going to get one as soon as my pension begins in October. You young guys can pay for it through your taxes for me :thumbsup:
Yes but as I said everyones requirements are different :)
I doubt I would be happy put a 10-12 Kg rifle on the Atlas in the legs forward or back position.
When I go shooting steel or rocks or targets, in the feild or at the range I'm generally firing several rifles in a session.
I need a bipod on each, I'm not "resting/cooling" my rifles by lying them in the wet grass, rocks, concrete, under the ute, while I shoot another one.
The Atlas is about $495 plus the fixing rail here, a Harris is $315 with spikes & loc at Gunworks.
Yes they would both be cheaper if you import them.
Why would you need to? The Atlas unextended with legs at 90° is as low as the lowest Harris, and the legs are very strong? Yes there is some play, which makes it easier to load. It's not going to break before the Harris.
Yes, everyone has different needs.
Also you'd have to be insane to pay that
With the legs forward so you can load the Atlas they seemed to have a lot of play & a fair bit of spring in them.
That would be "fine" on a "normal" rifle but I thought it wouldn't be very flash on a rifle over twice, three times as heavy..
Loaded straight down like a Harris it wouldn't be an issue.
Define "Forward" ? At 90°, like in the video, I don't see how it could be a problem - the legs are ~vertical and the play isn't a weakness issue at all. I don't own a 10-15kg rifle though. I can send you my Atlas to try if you like?
Forward like 45 Dgrees or wahat ever it is.
The legs go forward, verticle & backwards towards the shooter, all lock in that position.
Like this....
http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psec0a258f.jpg
Imagine 10 kgs on that......
You don't need to have it in that position. Certainly not in any situation when you could use a Harris - at the 90° position with the legs retracted, the Atlas is as low as the lowest Harris.
You don't need to have it at 45°, the 90° position works perfectly. I've never shot my Atlas with the legs in that position.
Fair enough, my understanding is that is one of the selling points, you can put them forward so you can load it up more than the Harris ?
Spikes on a Harris would change that comparision completely.
There is nothing better than actually trying a product in the feild how it is going to be used, as opposed to looking at it in a shop.
Like looking through binos, scope, rangefinder etc in the shop then out on the hill, big difference, massive.....
You can load them more than a Harris in the vertical position. Works much better. Spikes on the Harris allow you to load it, but then you have problems with uneven tension in the legs, can't pan, plus you've got big spikes on your bipod. Also destructive modification, add weight, etc.
E: the offer to borrow the Atlas stands, I'm off to Oz on Friday so I won't be using it for a month or two.
I love my atlas....you'd have to pry it away from my dead fingers to get it. From a hunting perspective they are a great bipod - the ability to pan on a moving target without resetting the legs is a huge advantage over the harris. I lost count how many times I'd locate a target, set up my rifle have the animal start walking away, reset the rifle, spend the next 5 minutes trying to find the animal again - all with the Harris. My last trip out with the Atlas put that problem to bed & I had no issue's consistantly shooting Wallabies out to 800 yards. As long as you use a light preload, bipod hop is almost non existant & even my my 7kg long range rig don't seem to have any elevation issue's.