How long would you expect a Gen 4 Hardy magnum can to last?
On a 7mmRM with a 22" barrel.
Done 400 rounds at most and its poked... had a small piece of metal rattling round in it and groups have gone to absolute shit. Shoots fine without the can on.
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How long would you expect a Gen 4 Hardy magnum can to last?
On a 7mmRM with a 22" barrel.
Done 400 rounds at most and its poked... had a small piece of metal rattling round in it and groups have gone to absolute shit. Shoots fine without the can on.
I thought it would have lasted multiple longer than that.
Check out his site, I think it has lifespan on it. If not call him and he should replace it.
Is it one of his early ones they had a lot of problems?
A magnum calibre with a 22" barrel is very hard on a suppressor.....
Yes probably 400 magnum rounds on an alloy suppressor is about it.
I'll only use lightweight suppressors on dedicated hunting rifles.
Barrel length is the number one killer especially combined with a magnum.
On the shorter barrelled semis iv popped All brands... Most only lasting 2 or 3 mags.
If your Shooting it a bunch then I'd at least go modular so you can inspect and replace baffles when required.
About two strikes with a hammer, or one with an axe or sledge.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired
On a more serious note I would think for the money, that it would last longer than a few hundred rounds. If it is made for magnum calibres it should be able to cope with them. It it is not lasting then I would suggest it is not handling that calibre and as such should not be sold as suitable for that calibre.
With his prices, it would mean you paid over $1.00 per shot for the suppressor on top of your ammo cost. I would suggest having a word and see what he says. From my own personal experience, I am not sure it will help though.
Talk to him about it
Doesn't sound like it's 'fit-for-purpose'. Regardless of warranty, products can be expected to last a 'reasonable' length of time / amount of use. We can all accept that suppressors have a finite life, but 400rnds?!? Go back to him for a solution. If you're not satisfied, I think the CGA would support your case.
http://www.consumerprotection.govt.n...guarantees-act
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Wouldnt even bother talking to him, you'll only end up more pissed off. 400 rounds is probably about right,save the hassle and throw it away. Get a decent one made of stainless.
I had a gen 4 start leaking on me after 120 rounds he replaced it with the new gen5 no problems had it in days
I was definitely aware that the shorter barrel (only 2" shorter than factory!) would shorten the life span a bit but even so I am a bit disappointed with 350 rounds. I have stainless (MAE) on another gun but wanted to avoid a bit of weight with this gun. Even with a "dedicated" hunting gun which this is its pretty easy to shoot 400 rnds over a few years......load dev, sighting in, changing loads, bit of real word practice (goats) etc
Is 2" really going to make that much difference? Even if it was 40% more wear with the shorter barrel thats still less than 500 rnds before its buggerd. Not enough in my opinion for a $600 suppressor
Talk to him and let us know how you get on.
That calibre has quite a bit of powder going down the barrel. Especially if you fire a string of shots at a time. Shooting is always subject to the Law of Physics i.e. there is a price for everything.
Yup Rem Mag has a lot of powder and because of this the pressure at the muzzle is very high especially with a short barrel I can run the numbers
Mines 26 inches and I've had at least 500 rounds through my gen 4 hardy suppressor, lord knows how many the previous owner put through it and it still going strong
They are only a hunting suppressor, personaly I wouldn't run a hardy hand grenade on anything with more than 50-60g of powder, everyone knows about my early gen one that blew to bits on my WSM ( you get enormous pressure pikes from WSM's) and the replacement bulged after a few dozen rounds.
The gen 3 on my 6-204 is mint, but then its a 308 can on a rifle thats only running 28g's lol
I've got two HRE cans - a GEN 2 and a GEN 4 (both non magnum). Both cans have fired in excess of 1500+ rounds but then again they are only mounted on a 7/08 and .270 and neither are running overly hot loads.
Yep, I can see why Robbie recommended I not use on of their duralium suppressors on my .260 Rem. That suppressor is coming up on 4000 rounds through it now (mostly hot .260Rem loads). Maybe i should be sending it back to Robbie for a clean...
nah, it still shoots good - don't fix it if it ain't broke! :thumbsup:
Hardy builds 20inch 300wsm customs fitted with his suppressors so your rem mag should have been fine unless you've shot it hot, that's when the problems start
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That sucks, use it for a paperweight and Get a gunworks, got one on my rem mag same ish length as your barrel, EXCELLENT customer service
Funny how it's only ever Hardys that I hear F!$&@&g out....................
All types will let go eventually ...
If your sealed can has fired more than a few hundred rounds take it off and give it a few sharp taps against a bit of wood....
Then rattle it and listen to all the hard little carbon rocks you've just dislodged fly about inside.
And no.
... I have no idea how your going to get them out :thumbs:
Hardy said it was fine cant see anything that would cause accuracy loss. Said it only looked like it had fired 100 rounds through it...... Said it was probably a bedding issue....LOL. A bedding issue that sorts itself out when you take the suppressor off!!!! Will see how we go.....
I would say you will going elsewhere shortly
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Originally Posted by Wired
A thin barrel with a suppressor on it can cause barrel whip issues witch will show up more if the rifle isn't bedded right
But most likely not to the issue if it was ok
I've had a good run with hardys. I'll give him the opportunity to sort it and if so I would still buy another. Anyone's products can have faults it's all about how company's deal with them that really mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by puku
Had a reasonable run in past but just had a very old model explode. Quite scary. Is old but only prob had about 100-120 rounds 300 win mag full length. Makes you think
I have heard similar things after I had an issue with mine. It is never his suppressor at fault. (and mine was leaving soot on the barrel after firing. No way that is anything except the suppressor) Whats more I was not asking him to fix it. All I wanted to know was what I could do to stop it. I now use Gunworks exclusively. Service and back up of their product means a lot. Someone who believes it is never his product can never fix faults as he wont believe it is faulty....Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired
I tried this and the response was not what one should expect from a business. As for the second statement ("Anyone's products can have faults it's all about how company's deal with them that really matters.) You hit the nail right on the head. Every business has the opportunity for mistakes. And in all likelihood every business will make a few. It is how a business deals with a mistake that defines whether they are a good, bad, indifferent or great business. A great one is not one that never makes a mistake. A great one is one you can trust will see you right if you ever experience a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired
Suppressor replaced so all good in the end. Cheers Dan
Still shouldn't have been a cunt to you like he did,by trying to shift blame he was trying to also shift responsibility. That in itself is a classic case of;cuntitist.
I wouldnt say he was a cunt at all. When he looked at it he could see nothing wrong. I then went and shot a couple of targets. One with my old can and one with a brand new one. The targets proved there was something wrong and he replaced it. These days there are lots of people mucking around with their guns ; own bedding jobs, dubious gunsmiths, etc Im sure he gets people blamming his product when in fact it is something like the bedding or shit rings, bad crown etc.
I would still buy a Hardy can.
a happy ending . . . i think my next suppressor will be a modular jobby tho
R