Hi guys
Looking at changing up my rifle and was wondering what anyone would recommend. Was looking at the bergara b14 extreme or tikka or possibly a good second hand sakoif I could find one. Anyone got any thoughts.
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Hi guys
Looking at changing up my rifle and was wondering what anyone would recommend. Was looking at the bergara b14 extreme or tikka or possibly a good second hand sakoif I could find one. Anyone got any thoughts.
What are you doing with this rifle . . .
. What are you shooting, how far away, what have you used before?? Cheers
Any of those would be good as would a howa or savage.
Handle a few if you can and pick the one that just feels right.
I bought a new Tikka TX3 in 6.5 x 55 recently, mostly to shoot paper and for my grandson before too long (with tiny little ELDMs).
I have a couple of Tikkas already but I'm still amazed by the quality of what Tikka are doing. I'm only up to a dozen rounds or so with some really rubbish ammo and the thing looks to be incredibly accurate already and its going to fascinating to see what it can do with some quality reloads.
I think a feature people underate is the Tikka stock, for a budget gun its a work of art. I've modified a couple and there is a high content fiber in their build which gives them great stability compared to the Savage, Howa and Remington plastic stocks I've experienced. I suspect that the TX3 stock is the third change in manufacturing process that I have seen and its another step up in its quality and stability.
People dislike the one size action fit all approach but my take is that lets Beretta invest the savings in tooling and having one stock fits all, into the things that really count. Quality consistent machining, a Sako quality barrel, a nice adjustable trigger and a relatively high quality synthetic stock.
The Bergara seems a great concept but I haven't looked closely, but if you want a gun out of the box that will consistently shoot small groups at 600 yards off a bipod or a reasonably weighted bush gun the Tikka is ideal, that's why there are so many out there.
And that's the reason there are so many aftermarket parts for them, the manufactures not only have a big market to service but one size fits all with most things, so its more economic so its worth doing at a reasonable price.
It would just be a hunting gun, bush with the ability to push out in the open 500m. I currently have a ruger m77 in 308 but would like something abit lighter to carry. I've handled both at the local hunting and fishing and both feel good just don't to much about the bergaras, not to much info online.
A mate hunts with the light weight Bergara. It has a fluted bolt and barrel as standard.
I think its great value for money and certainly fits what you want to do with it.
its the rem 700 vs tikka T3 argument all over again
Iv had both and I like the tikka better (bergara is just a remington clone with slight improvments)
both are good and it comes down to preference
nothing wrong with a ruger m77, you are probably better off buying the scope you want to use long term first as 308 will do everything you are looking for well
I've got Bergara, Remington and Tikka actions (not in the lightweight configuration you are considering) and they are all much of a muchness, in term of action if I had to choose I'd probably go Bergara, but for a purely hunting sort of stick I'd let the stock fit decide the issue - what comes up best, what's it like to carry (a hunting rifle spends a hell of a lot of time being carried) and do I like how it looks - you have to "like" a rifle I reckon!
The only Remington I've had anything to do with recently was a new rifle for a new shooter. He wasted a lot of ammo because the recycled milk bottle stock had fore end contact and was spraying lead all over the show off his new bipod...out with the dremel and it shot ok. I don't want a Tikka anything else argument but that was a frustrating experience for the guy and people need to be informed imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
The bergara is a nice looking bit of kit but just not to sure about the 18 inch barrel against the tikkas 20inch. Both felt nice and shouldered nicely. When I had a look at them in h&f, felt like the sales man was pushing towards the bergara, reckond they are getting more popular than the tikkas! A friend recommended the ruger America but I want a gun that will last and I don't feel that with them but I could be wrong.
There has never been an argument....Tikka over Lemington all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
At least a Tikka will extract everytime.
I have a few Tikkas, just worked out that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggis
I put a carbon Fibre stock and C/F wrapped barrel in one. I got some gear on special and done ok on the build.
A gunsmith told me the Bergara were worth looking into when I was looking for something else for some other reason.
If the Ruger is accurate you might be spending a lot dollars to save marginal weight.
I would never talk you out of buying another rifle just wondering if you are changing up the calibre or optics?
For hunting I perhaps a Tikka is an easy fix.
My mate is raving about the newer Tikka models Aspire and Strata. He has the aspire in .223.
If you see a good deal on a second-hand Tikka in a chambering you like consider grabbing that and rebarrel or restock when required and make it your own.
The ruger is OK but I have had my battles with it to get it shoot and feel it's time for a change. As for calibers iam open to something else but do like the 308. I did seea ssako finnlite for sale I qtown but never had a chance to look at it
you wanting to stretch legs of projectile..shoot further...so COULD go in other direction and buy bigger and slightly heavier for the long range/tops/close to wagon hunts and keep the 308 for the bush work...something like a 7mm mag with decent stock n barrel not a soda straw boot the crap out of you thing.
yes I have one forsale but thats not why Im suggesting it.
if you want MORE than the 308 will do,you need to jump quite a bit as its a very capable round.
Nah not interested In a big banger 308 is good. I would consider 7mm08 or 6.5x55
That's how I feel now after my adventures with the ruger don't get me wrong it's built like a tank, part of the reason I bought it over a tikka. The thing is I don't want to go back down that road again
Greetings @Haggis,Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggis
I think that the answer to the question is in your own post.
Why not keep the Ruger and buy either a Tikka or a Bergara in 6.5x55. I lusted after a nice new 6.5x55 for decades but nothing available. Did not want a .260 with its short mag and slow twist. 6.5 Creedmoor had yet to be invented. Finally I spotted that Tikka offered the cartridge in it's T3 Lite. Snap. Great rifle, nice and light with a 6 power scope and deadly accurate. I still have the .308 Remington I bought in the late 1970's and just walked back in from zeroing it for a shoot on Saturday. Neither rifle is going anywhere.
Regards Grandpamac.
If you don't want a big banger but you want another rifle they are all good points.
A .280ai goes close to 7mm mag performance with lower recoil.
But if you found a 7x64 or .280rem they are close to what the .280ai is
I think Tikka make a 7x64 bit it's the age old problem of dearer dies, cases and maybe having to rebarrel something to get it.
Tikka are great but their magazine s are short/restrictive in any chambering.
I almost bought a Tikka CTR in .260, those mags offer a little more length.
My Model 7 disagreesQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Greetings @CBH Australia,Quote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
The 6.5x55 Tikka has a long mag and I can load the 129 grain SST out to 78.5mm, close to the rifling. I think that this, plus the long projectile bearing surface, are some of the reasons for their excellent accuracy.
Regards Grandpamac.
I second this, the recoil won't be much different and you have a rifle for all game at all distances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Its the first riffle I have owned and the last as it does everything and you will not regret being able to shoot those long ranges.
Thanks for the help guys plenty to think about
Hey fellas just thought i would let you know that i went out and got myself a new tikka strata in 308. Just broke it in over the weekend and very happy with it so far. Cheers again for all your input
Good choice mate. I'm sure it will serve you wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Haggis