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Hello chaps,
There are two mosins in guncity. I'm not sure if I can post links in here, but:
https://www.guncity.com/762x54r-mosi...eceiver-366201
https://www.guncity.com/762x54r-mosi...eceiver-366202
Which mosins are these? As far as I can tell it's not 1907 carbine. Does anyone know for sure?
No expert but I'd be wary. Bolt handle and rear sight don't appear correct for the M1907.
Maybe a GC special ;)
The 1907 Carbine
Ring them up, I did and tlaked to them when i bought one about 10 years ago, had one picked out over the phone. they wer great to deal with.
Looks like wrong front sight, wrong rear sight, aftermarket bolt handle (and the stock has had a notch cut to allow this), no cleaning rod, and what looks like a different front end-cap thing. GC special looks about right.
Apart from the sniper versions of the full length rifle no variations of the nagant had a turned down bolt handle. The rear sight is wrong and the stock also looks wrong. The 1907 carbine is a bitza probably made by chopping a 91/30 down and modding a laminated rifle stock from the 50s.
Save your money, not the real deal.
Every "real " Mosin I have seen has the bolt handle sticking straight out when closed and straight up when open. It makes it easier to use when wearing thick russian gloves to fight the cold....The turn down kits and various modifications are to fit scopes. Maybe it is just the bolts that are not original, but certainly something is different.
They're mocked up 1907s to sell to unaware buyers.
Pretty bad really.
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I had a look at them pretty well done makes me think they where converted for a reason and all the hex receivers are early ones why would they go to so much trouble shortening a 91/30 when they worth money as they are?
They go to that much trouble because a 1907 carbine is generally around the $2kUSD mark, also these were shortened at the source(not by GC) in a surplus warehouse where they are probably tripping over spare mosin parts, if you have mosin parts in a big bin somewhere in europe they can throw together a run of poorly faked carbines and sell them as a substitute until you can afford the real deal. Where GC is doing the dodgy is knowingly selling fakes as the real thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oxfordkeith
Yes this is true if they knowingly doing the dirty that’s very wrong I see the rear sight is pinned at 300 from Ukraine you think?
Mosin Nagant Rifle Model Identification Guide
I use this site for mosin identification. Have found it to be accurate.
I'm really confused, the swept bolt handle and the noth Ed stock for the bolt handle put me out. possibly a rearsenal of some sort from some country where they have picked up a case of them for $1000 bucks
I'm really confused, the swept bolt handle and the notch stock for the bolt handle put me out. possibly a rearsenal of some sort from some country where they have picked up a case of them for $1000 bucks
Stupid double post.......... Won't delete God damn it
Now being sold as Repro's :ORLY:
@LookingForMauser Are you looking for a Mosin? Are you after anything in particular. I know someone who is considering selling theirs. But not to someone who wants to chop it.....
1953 Polish made M44 carbine. Only modification ever made to it was chopping off the bayonet lug when he got it in 1990 cos it caught up on every bit of scrub , bush lawyer / twig he walked past. All matching numbers and not used for around 25 years. I can add pictures if anyone wants. To be brutally honest I am surprised he is considering selling it as it was his first rifle he ever bought. He paid for it when he was 15, nearly 16, and had to wait until he could collect his F/A license from the local AO on his 16th birthday. Got the license and picked up the rifle same day....
I was looking at listing it here, but I am not 100% sure what it would be worth. I know rubbish ones in reasonable cond go for $600-$700 and would not want to short change him.
I was thinking of listing it at an absurd price like $999 and getting people to PM me their best offer, but I do not think the Mods would go for that as it is too much like an auction. I was looking to list it on Trade me at $750 and see where it goes. If it does not go for that much I will pay him myself and hang onto it in case his son ever gets interested in shooting. (plus I really like it too)
Thanks for your offer @timattalon, but I will continue looking. I'd like to own m44 and I'm not gonna use it as a bush gun so m44 without bayonet not really my thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by timattalon
I sent GC a message last week sometime explaining that they should not be advertising those rifles as 1907 Carbines because it’s very clear that they are bitsa rifles.
Adding “repro” to the listing title doesn’t really do justice and I’m still considering sending an email to the commerce commission regarding their website pages as they don’t explain at all that these are 100% NOT 1907 carbines.
They might be cool little Mosins, and for $200/$300 I would certainly buy one. But $900 is robbery and misrepresentation of what they’re actually selling.
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