Thread: New Illegal Police Firearm Policy

Originally Posted by Natatale

Hmm that maybe your way at looking at it, but there certainly hasn't been any Port Arthur type Massacres since !! and that has to be a good thing !!!

Natatale,

You need to have a bit of a study of the Port Arthur scenario. There hasn't been another one since because THAT one achieved Howard-the Coward's pre-conceived plan "to bring in new gun laws in Oz". He already had the new laws drawn up BEFORE Port Arthur happened. What a coincidence!!!! & I don't believe in them things.!!!

Wasn't Natatale the ozy guy who wanted only ex military guys to own mssa because they had been " trained" with them?

Originally Posted by Friwi

Wasn't Natatale the ozy guy who wanted only ex military guys to own mssa because they had been " trained" with them?

Get it right, I said "Military style weapons should be for those vetted and trained to use them. not just any, tom, dick or dickhead".
What does it matter anyway the government of the day will do what ever it f@#k'n pleases !!!! good luck trying to change their minds.
Any f@#k'n massacre don't play with words.
We just had 3 major one's worldwide all with military style weapons, and if you listen carefully to the sound track's from these live news items, you can hear high-powered semi-automatic gun fire in the background.
Did you want the to hear that sound in your local shopping mall as well ???? I don't think so !!!
F@#k'n grow up, the world we live in just got nasty, and you'd be one that puts his head in the sand and says "I'm right mate wont happen here"

Originally Posted by Natatale

Hmm that maybe your way at looking at it, but there certainly hasn't been any Port Arthur type Massacres since !! and that has to be a good thing !!!

Originally Posted by stretch

Define "Port Arthur type massacre".

Originally Posted by Natatale

Any f@#k'n massacre don't play with words.

I was hoping you'd make some distinction between " types" of massacre. There's been plenty before and after Port Arthur. Digging into the firearms related ones on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia, only two others were committed with semi-autos (including an evil SKS). Others were committed with bolt actions, pistols, and pump-action shotguns, knives, and fire.

The common factor is an unhinged perpetrator(s) wanting to do harm to others. Take away one means, and they'll find another way to achieve their goal.

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Originally Posted by stretch

I was hoping you'd make some distinction between " types" of massacre. There's been plenty before and after Port Arthur. Digging into the firearms related ones on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia, only two others were committed with semi-autos (including an evil SKS). Others were committed with bolt actions, pistols, and pump-action shotguns, knives, and fire.

The common factor is an unhinged perpetrator(s) wanting to do harm to others. Take away one means, and they'll find another way to achieve their goal.

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Yep and if you read, all were Domestic disputes gone violent, not crazies going about random shooting, or terrorist style killings.
Yep take one type of weapon and there will be another way, but don't you think its worth trying to do something, rather than do nothing ?!?!?

Originally Posted by Natatale

Get it right, I said "Military style weapons should be for those vetted and trained to use them. not just any, tom, dick or dickhead".

You've said a lot more than that.

military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.

Having semi auto 7.62 readably available to ANY person with a FAL is a recipe for a mass shooting.

And tell me what the fuck do you need with a semi auto 7.62, would you use it to stop a charging mob of goats from killing you ???
There are places for these types of weapons and NZ doesn't really need them !!

And here's the kicker.

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...24/#post409016

Originally Posted by Banana

You've said a lot more than that.







And here's the kicker.

And your point is ?????? Still comes down to what I have said and will say again "Vetted and Trained person" F@#k is that too hard too understand !!!!!

Originally Posted by Natatale

And your point is ?????? Still comes down to what I have said and will say again "Vetted and Trained person" F@#k is that too hard too understand !!!!!

I think he is getting at you saying why do you need a semi auto 308 for. You say there is no need for them in nz.

Yet you were asking to buy a semi auto 308. If nz people don't need them, then why are you seeking to buy one.

Sounds a little hypocritical. Or is that just me.

Originally Posted by jim160

I think he is getting at you saying why do you need a semi auto 308 for. You say there is no need for them in nz.

Yet you were asking to buy a semi auto 308. If nz people don't need them, then why are you seeking to buy one.

Sounds a little hypocritical. Or is that just me.

Possibly because the correct vetting and training have been carried out................ anyway I rest my case eh looking at some of the comments since my tongue in cheek post

Firearms are an easy target because they are emotive, headline grabbing and its easy for politicians to be "seen to be doing something" .

Only a very small group of voters will be effected,

Thats also why they will never try to sort out the mess and aggravation and cost that booze causes, Too many (read every) voters would be effected.
and ..........................they would be out at the next election.
Oh cynical me

Originally Posted by top gun

Natatale,

You need to have a bit of a study of the Port Arthur scenario. There hasn't been another one since because THAT one achieved Howard-the Coward's pre-conceived plan "to bring in new gun laws in Oz". He already had the new laws drawn up BEFORE Port Arthur happened. What a coincidence!!!! & I don't believe in them things.!!!

And Man landed on the moon, or did he ???, and oh 911 was a setup by the American Government to declare war on terrorism ???, show us the proof behind any of it !!!!
Lots of theories thrown around by journalists and theory crackpots, we will never Know the truth behind any of it !!!!