Thread: New scope

FYI a burris veracity will shit on the vx3. Probably closer to a vx5/vx6 in quality. Had a few leupolds and I couldn't bring myself to own something less than vx5 if I wanted to dial

Originally Posted by Shearer

Do these new Burris scope have an illuminated reticule option?

Yeah mate. Not badly priced either...

https://broncos.co.nz/hunting/optics...minated-e3-moa

Originally Posted by Shearer

Do these new Burris scope have an illuminated reticule option?

According to their website they do but not 2-10 and its only the g-3 reticle . They seem to have all the boxes ticked . Just not seen one yet to look through which will be the acid test.

Seems that their none available yet , so if someone does get a look through them id bee keen to know what they thought.

@H.M
In fairness, I have got to make a comment regarding eye relief of Leupold 4.5-14*40.
At 4.5 x the eye relief is 112 mm, which is substantially more than most.
And at 14x it is 94mm.
By comparison as an example, the swarovski z6 2.5-15*44 has 95mm and the z3 , 3-10*42 has 90mm.
So, the stats and specs actually support leupold eye relief as being very good.
I have been very satisfied with mine over the years. . I also make good use of the b&c reticles without difficulty.

I wouldn't like a VX3 4.5-14 for a hunting scope.
I didn't notice the eyebox or eye relief being too picky, but the FOV on 4.5x is tiny.

As others have said the VX5 2-10 would be my pick, if that's too expensive then would consider a VX3 3.5-10.

Can't comment on the new Burris but other new options from Burris seem to get pretty good reviews.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I wouldn't like a VX3 4.5-14 for a hunting scope.
I didn't notice the eyebox or eye relief being too picky, but the FOV on 4.5x is tiny.

As others have said the VX5 2-10 would be my pick, if that's too expensive then would consider a VX3 3.5-10.

Can't comment on the new Burris but other new options from Burris seem to get pretty good reviews.

Agree I've tried my son's vx3 4.5 x 14 and eye relief is very fussy and my mate has one and he really strugglies on high power to get a full picture.
I would never buy one.

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For me it was more the limited FOV (even on 4.5x) that I didn't like as my hunting was mixed close up/long range. Otherwise excellent scope.

Unless you have a very large objective lens, say like 50 - 56mm then your alway goung to get smaller field of view when you go higher magnification. Of course 2x mag will have more fov (and more light) than a 4.5x with same objective lens size! If your bush hunting then 2x is advantageous compared to 5 x. It's a very different story if you are hunting in open longer range terrain though. It's the old story;
Horses for Courses. The fact is; the leupold 4.5-14 *40 is ACTUALLY 4.9x-14.4x *40, so you may as well realise that on low power it is essentially a 5 x scope and designed more for open country longer range hunting than bush hunting.

Originally Posted by Woody

Unless you have a very large objective lens, say like 50 - 56mm then your alway goung to get smaller field of view when you go higher magnification. Of course 2x mag will have more fov (and more light) than a 4.5x with same objective lens size! If your bush hunting then 2x is advantageous compared to 5 x. It's a very different story if you are hunting in open longer range terrain though. It's the old story;
Horses for Courses. The fact is; the leupold 4.5-14 *40 is ACTUALLY 4.9x-14.4x *40, so you may as well realise that on low power it is essentially a 5 x scope and designed more for open country longer range hunting than bush hunting.

Which suits me fine as i mainly hunt open tussock and tops. Would hardly ever use the lower end apart from maybe once a year. Cheers for the info.

Don't get sucker in by the bigger objective lens gives bigger FOV. It has other functions eg light gathering and maybe clarity of image, depending upon quality.

Size of the objective lens does not determine FOV.
FOV is all done in the eyepiece lens and the scope internals.

A good example is my old Leupold 3x. It has a huge FOV but the objective lens is the same diameter as the tube itself.
Take a look at what the likes of Swarovski achieve without bulbous front ends.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Don't get sucker in by the bigger objective lens gives bigger FOV. It has other functions eg light gathering and maybe clarity of image, depending upon quality.

Size of the objective lens does not determine FOV.
FOV is all done in the eyepiece lens and the scope internals.

A good example is my old Leupold 3x. It has a huge FOV but the objective lens is the same diameter as the tube itself.
Take a look at what the likes of Swarovski achieve without bulbous front ends.

Exactly.
https://riflescopescenter.com/field-...%20the%20scope.

That is correct. My typo error. Larger eyepiece and tube have more fov effect. Large front end = more light at a given magnification. An easy comparison is to set a 2-10*40 scope set at 5 x alongside a 4.9-14.4 *40. That sets the fov's on a comparable footing and you'll find little difference then. 30-34 mm tubes and large ocular lense is why some of the high end scopes have more brightness and fov, but, you pay a premium for that. Incidentally, the eye relief on most NF scopes are less than leupold and others including some well known "high end brands etc.

Originally Posted by Woody

That is correct. My typo error. Larger eyepiece and tube have more fov effect. Large front end = more light at a given magnification. An easy comparison is to set a 2-10*40 scope set at 5 x alongside a 4.9-14.4 *40. That sets the fov's on a comparable footing and you'll find little difference then. 30-34 mm tubes and large ocular lense is why some of the high end scopes have more brightness and fov, but, you pay a premium for that. Incidentally, the eye relief on most NF scopes are less than leupold and others including some well known "high end brands etc.

Which part of your post was the typo?

Worth looking out for an older Leica ER 3.5-14 x 42, picked one up here (Scotland) for just under $900 NZD.

Dial turret, side focus, light, excellent glass and good eye relief/box compared to FOV. Made in Germany.

Downsides, turret is single turn non-locking, only 20 odd MOA worth of elevation.

No illumination (not a negative or positive).

Personally avoid illuminated reticles unless needed twilight/night shooting (I guess you bush hunters may find it useful sometimes), rare for them to be daylight bright and light with good battery life. Swaro seem to have it down pat with their z8i but that is serious coin...