Thread: NZ Defence Force to buy 82 new high-tech rifles for $4 million

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Considering that my Barnard 50 BMG is two to three time more accurate than my M107-A1 was, it would be a struggle to hit the 1330 yard gong with any consistency with the 107 with great ammo.....

I have shot plenty of sub half MOA groups with my Barnard & managed one 1/2 moa & a few moa groups with my M107-A1, it was very accurate for a 107.

To qualify that my Barnard is a POS compared to my 375s, the 50 is designed to "hit the Hilux" anywhere, not "hit Hiluxs wing mirror"

The M107-A1 is absolutely awesome to use & its bloody hard to argue with 10 x 50 cal rounds in the air before the first one gets there, but they are anti material, not anti personal.

The M107-A1 is the coolest semi ever, period, certainly an experience to own & shoot one, just cranking the action is an experience



I was privileged to own one & never thought it could ever happen, at the end of the day a 50 is just a very very cool toy

Well that's the first time I've ever seen a Nightforce look quite... small.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Greg;646687] The M107-A1 is absolutely awesome to use & its bloody hard to argue with 10 x 50 cal rounds in the air before the first one gets there, but they are anti material, not anti personal. [/URL]

Ah, OK, here's was me getting worried about people owning such things. Stand down Mr Cahill, everything's OK!

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

The M107-A1 is absolutely awesome to use & its bloody hard to argue with 10 x 50 cal rounds in the air before the first one gets there, but they are anti material, not anti personal. [/URL]

Ah, OK, here's was me getting worried about people owning such things. Stand down Mr Cahill, everything's OK!

Calm down Liberace, I'm sure Kiwi Greg means they are not as accurate as other "DANGEROUS SNIPER RIFLES..."
Cahill's objection makes no sense whatsoever and is purely emotion driven and designed to scare the general populace...

For Sarvo, the rifles wil be used in exactly as the old ones, (loners from other forces) have been used for, so no change there.

They’d get screwed!?

Some ranges get bent out of shape over muzzle brakes, but I've never seen a rifle lift up a shooting mat next to one

Originally Posted by Tommy

Some ranges get bent out of shape over muzzle brakes, but I've never seen a rifle lift up a shooting mat next to one

Pretty normal Tommy

Originally Posted by Tommy

Some ranges get bent out of shape over muzzle brakes, but I've never seen a rifle lift up a shooting mat next to one

You haven't looked hard enough Tommy. Last year at the Toby Shoot @Alonzo did exactly that to me just as I was about to pull the trigger.

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The optics and mounts run to $20K per rifle, around 10 mags per rifle, spare barrels x2 + rifle cost in case and your pretty close to the $48,000

There's some great shooters out there in civilian. Life but I'm not sure taking a shot on the range can not be compared to a battle field situation Could not compare the pressure on the soldier to the range don't know much about either shooting situations just my thorts on it no one shooting back at you on the range I will stay there�� safer (be gentle nt tryin to offend anyone)

Originally Posted by Bernie

There's some great shooters out there in civilian. Life but I'm not sure taking a shot on the range can not be compared to a battle field situation Could not compare the pressure on the soldier to the range don't know much about either shooting situations just my thorts on it no one shooting back at you on the range I will stay there�� safer (be gentle nt tryin to offend anyone)

@Bernie don't be gentle be rough offend some. I do on occasion, it makes life interesting

I'd be very disappointed if paid, full time, trained army sniper boys couldn't out shoot some normal characters with their toys hitting plates. That would be a sad day for nz. You boys would be rapt though.

Comparing a civilian shooter to an army sniper is like comparing a good driver to an F1 driver. There's no comparison between the two, sure there are good shooters at the toby shoot but you guys are taking shots @ plates in a "relaxed" environment.

Besides that you are seriously forgetting that army snipers are elite - you can't just be a sniper if you think you can shoot long range, they are highly trained personnel far beyond any infantrymen and must meet minimum criteria to even get selected as one.