Thread: Optics for long range

Mine are not marked Optikonia , and where they where made , I have no idea as Premier kept things almost secret , but I think they always claimed the lens came from Europe/Germany , and my main concerns , have nothing to do with the optical quality , its to do with the design , and you bring up what I forgot about , the MTC function , it sucks big time , and I would not have it in any scope given a choice .
I donot like the camlock zeroing proceedure , and the clicking whilst doing it , that and para issues , and although have not used the 5-25x , its turret design & camlocks are the same as the 3-15x , I like the idea of the 22mil single turn turret , BUT it maybe not such a good thing in reality , as the clicks would have to be very very close to one another .

So reguardless as to where the Premier is manufactured , it still probabliy uses the same turrets/camlocks & internal mechs , & MTC clicks as well , so maybe not much change over the things I found I did not like in my 3-15x50 .

I know they changed the size of the camlock levers on the 5-25x56mm model , so that is maybe 1 mod , also know they sent out dual spring clickers to all who had the 1st 3-15x scopes , as they had issues with the original single spring clickers , also know the 1st 3-15x are stronger than the current model , and that was soley about being alot cheaper to manufacture .

Most issues with the new Benders seem around the ones that have MTC knobs , none of mine have , and I will not buy any that do .


OK , Mistel ,

In reguards to FFP , some like it , others not , the main concern with it for LR use is that the cross hair grows thicker as you power UP , but If you limit your top end mag , ie 25-30x , and use a good design/thickness , most of this is minimised .
As far as ranging with the reticle , most would argue that its only accurate enough for rough range estimates of 0-450m , and because you can judge these my eye at these short dist , plus the traj is relatively flat in this zone as to render accurate ranging a complete waste of time ( remember in the field , all tgts will mainly be unknown sizes as well ) .
For me , FFP means , quick hold offs , no matter the magnification , and corrections seen , ie fall of shot , can in reverse be dialled straight onto scope .

Be aware , that Ase Utra , have a muzzle brake , 18x1.5mm thread , that uses a locking SS suppressor over the top of the brake , ( borelock , SL7 ) .

As with any suppressor , be forever vigilant , as they can , and do unscrew at the worst time , for that reason , I am looking at the SL7 borelock suppressor .

You will find the rifle very smooth in operation , and it has more room in magazine to load long , and the barrel twist is more inline for running 300gr bullets ( 1-9.35 twist ) , I would reccomend Lapua brass or RUAG , heard both are good , my actual experience is only with Lapua to date .

If you cannot get the new AX bipod ( you need both AX bipod & AX adapter mount ) , this will fit straight into the older AW , AWM , AWSM rifles and AICS stocks , just as the bipod , then use a Harris or Atlas etc .

If you have no spare mags , then you need to order some ASAP , AI are seriously back ordered .

Later Chris


Later