Thread: Projectile manufacturing

Originally Posted by Wingman

123gr, 140-150gr
Happy to test them for you too

Also agreed!

Originally Posted by Wingman

123gr, 140-150gr
Happy to test them for you too

Ha ha here we go, nothing like consensus 130 and 140ish (142-144).
130 for my 6.5x47L and 140 for my 6.5x55bjai.

I'm not sure I ever met someone who was loved by the shooting community that enjoyed it. Kids in the car is probably a good analogy.

6.5mm weight, best BC possible sub 150gr

It should be possible to crowd fund the equipment by pre-selling the projectiles. Investors get paid back in projectiles over a period of time. A subscription is also possible.

Fit the models in with Bryns line up and match prices, paying Bryn a small royalty on each projectile.

The purpose is to get more projectile money spent locally, secure people's access to projectiles.

This model of distributed manufacturing works for anything where you can do it quietly at home without industrial zoning. There is a clothing company in Christchurch where all their staff sew at home.

It is scalable, meaning you can have multiple home workshops.

It's the equivalent of saying "I'm going to buy the gear and make my own projectiles" but instead, you buy shares in the gear and someone else makes them.


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I have a bullet maker 30km from me in his workshop on the farm.
Atomic 29

CNC machined.

Haven't used any yet.

I won't claim to be an expert in machining - but looking at it I think the best option for domestically produced projectiles would be something like "Cutting Edge Bullets" from the US (I think there is a similar brand in Aussie) - copper solids, High BC hunting and target rounds.
This could be set up on automated equipment to get around the expense of too many staff vs wages in order to make it viable? Could be sold as environmentally more friendly as no lead - no jackets from external machinist just copper rod / bar to machine?

And beware of what you wish for regarding the environmentaly friendly shit...I meant stuff

Yep , made on a Swiss type lathe. About $us180000 for one of these plus the set up cost , premices and other expenses.

Do you still make projectiles? I am wondering what is the best way to contact you?

This conversation was had in South Africa many years ago, and in the end we ended up with a few guys like Bryn who swage cup and core bullets. But the majority who got into it went with CNC/Lathe turned bullets.

Some went big and stayed local, some went big and moved to the USA and some remained small.

And many failed.


Some of the ones that are still around

Kriek Bullets
Peregrine bullets (my favorite)
Impala bullets
GS Custom bullets
Balistix

Plent more that i cant remember.

Have a google for ideas.

Also a local explosives company in SA has now started making propellant (called riflex) as the state owned local manufacturer Somchem is in trouble and imported powders are very expensive. Maybe its worth a talk to someone in NZ who makes explosives such as, Red Bull powder, or Prime Explosives.

Originally Posted by NewbieZAR

Also a local explosives company in SA has now started making propellant (called riflex) as the state owned local manufacturer Somchem is in trouble and imported powders are very expensive. Maybe its worth a talk to someone in NZ who makes explosives such as, Red Bull powder, or Prime Explosives.

Just keep buying and using what IS there.

You will never be completely unable to reload for lack of powder as it's not too difficult to even make it up yourself.

Bullets CAN always be cast, ok not VLD jacketed ones for long range, but for most hunting and targets, OK.

But primers ... If you really want national self-reliance then some home company should be making primers. But that's very specialised and sensitive.

If that was directed at me I'm no trouble to get hold of just try targex10.1@gmail.com

Originally Posted by TARGEX

If that was directed at me I'm no trouble to get hold of just try targex10.1@gmail.com

We are very fortunate to have you making projectiles here in NZ. Thank you!

Originally Posted by NewbieZAR

Also a local explosives company in SA has now started making propellant (called riflex) as the state owned local manufacturer Somchem is in trouble and imported powders are very expensive. Maybe its worth a talk to someone in NZ who makes explosives such as, Red Bull powder, or Prime Explosives.

From my limited knowledge of both explosives and propellants are quite different. Firearm propellants need a specialist company to formulate and prepare.

I wonder if we aren't better off leaving Bryn to manufacture the precision bullets, and rather have a local manufacturer for bulk soft point bullets for hunting so 1 supplier isn't trying to juggle different types of bullets