Thread: Rugers been doin some market research...

It looks like a ruger American in wolf cloth. That is probably why they offer some of the same caliber options as the ruger american predator... Yep they should have one the 6.5 creedmoor in 26" as well.

Originally Posted by gimp

6.5CM has a lot more market support than .260 for the intended audience of this rifle. Factory match ammunition, increasing popularity in competitions, etc. Remington is intensely retarded and totally dropped the ball on the "precision rifle" potential of the .260, there's next to no market support for it in that role.

I agree there is more support, but mostly seems to be from Hornady in the ammo department, which is because they helped develop the cartridge (i believe).

260 was forgotten about due to stupid Remington, but it seems to have come back with a vengeance. Most mainstream rifles come with 260 as an option, and with Lapua making brass for it as of recent, I would've said they were equally as popular.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I agree there is more support, but mostly seems to be from Hornady in the ammo department, which is because they helped develop the cartridge (i believe).

260 was forgotten about due to stupid Remington, but it seems to have come back with a vengeance. Most mainstream rifles come with 260 as an option, and with Lapua making brass for it as of recent, I would've said they were equally as popular.

Multiple other companies make 6.5CM ammo aside from Hornady and most of the major American rifle manufacturers make 6.5CM rifles in a variety of styles - hunting rifles as well as precision etc. There's no factory support for .260 in the precision rifle market, aside from like the Tikka T3 CTR. No match ammo from a major manufacturer etc

Originally Posted by gimp

Multiple other companies make 6.5CM ammo aside from Hornady and most of the major American rifle manufacturers make 6.5CM rifles in a variety of styles - hunting rifles as well as precision etc. There's no factory support for .260 in the precision rifle market, aside from like the Tikka T3 CTR. No match ammo from a major manufacturer etc

Who other than Savage and Ruger chamber rifles in 6.5 Creedmore? I know Savage and Tikka have multiple options in .260. And as far as factory ammo, Id agree support for the Creedmore is growing, but .260 seems to have more options still (according to Midway), and it does seem to be mainly Hornady.

I'm quite interested in if there is more support for either cartridge as I hope to buy a 6.5 cal of some sort soon and was more or less set on 260. But if there is a case to be made for the Creedmore, I'll start seriously looking at that.
I like that Lapua makes brass for 260 and it seems Lapua only makes brass for popular calibers they think will stand the test of time.

Edit: I see Accuracy international offers rifles in both cals, so they both must stand a chance of living longer than most wssssssm type loudenboomers.

Is it just me or does the chart say .234win?

And why not get an AR10? Or is this for the states with tough gun laws?

An AR10 is only cosmetically similar really. Bolt actions are still favoured for the PRS type competitions due to being more accurate, easier to shoot well, reliable, and rules regarding moving between positions on stages with the bolt open, which is harder to do on a semi. The PRS competition crowd and followers is who this is aimed at

A bolt action is also more stable in recoil due to the action not cycling as well. I am pretty certain in a PRS event the scorers are not allowed to call shot corrections for misses - this means it is a massive advantage to be able to spot your own misses. Heavy rifles, muzzle brakes, and light recoiling calibres that perform great in the wind have the advantage here. They also don't do that much unsupported shooting and so many accept their rifle will be horrible to shoot unsupported standing on the basis it will be better in the supported shooting.

All marketing hype, offered in factory calibers for those new to shooting who want something that looks like a sniper rifle on tv.

Kj

Hmmm

I think you'll find why it's not in "proper" anti personal sniper chamberings is because that's not what it's for... Like gimp has said in the type of comps it's designed for why have a heavy recoiling magnum when your only punching paper or ringing steel...

Fairly limited market here id say, but with the price point it could tempt a few shooters...

NO KJ ,

Its not all hype , if you overlook the silly AR type stock & tubegun look , it does offer something that is NOT really found in many bolt action rifles at all , and thats a double feed /double stack magazine of 10rds or more .
These mags are easier to load & and strip the round out easier for feeding etc , I cannot think of many modern bolt action rifles that have that feature , the only rifles I have with that feature are 2 old Parker Hales , M85 & M87 & a newer AI AW .

If this feeds anywhere as smooth as my AI AW , people will LOVE them , I just look past the stock & tube bits , 1st time I cycled my AW live , I thought sh&% TOO smooth/easy , didnot pickup & feed round , so I opened bolt , only to eject a live round , and its such a common thing with the AW that its mentioned in the Manual , NOT that KIWI men , read bloodly manuals or books .

The guy on snipershide , is getting 1/2 moa at 850yds on the 6.5 cred , & he's loving it .

Originally Posted by ChrisF

NO KJ ,

Its not all hype , if you overlook the silly AR type stock & tubegun look , it does offer something that is NOT really found in many bolt action rifles at all , and thats a double feed /double stack magazine of 10rds or more .
These mags are easier to load & and strip the round out easier for feeding etc , I cannot think of many modern bolt action rifles that have that feature , the only rifles I have with that feature are 2 old Parker Hales , M85 & M87 & a newer AI AW .

If this feeds anywhere as smooth as my AI AW , people will LOVE them , I just look past the stock & tube bits , 1st time I cycled my AW live , I thought sh&% TOO smooth/easy , didnot pickup & feed round , so I opened bolt , only to eject a live round , and its such a common thing with the AW that its mentioned in the Manual , NOT that KIWI men , read bloodly manuals or books .

The guy on snipershide , is getting 1/2 moa at 850yds on the 6.5 cred , & he's loving it .

Fair enough, I can't get past the wanna be "ar" look myself. But I'm totally bias as only rifles you can take hunting and enjoy carrying interest me. I've tried hunting with a few ar15 rifles in the past and they are terrible to carry and hunt with in thick bush.

But for ringing some gongs...hey could be fun? But why not use a practical hunting rifle for that too?

Kj

I wonder what they will cost when they finally get to NZ

Originally Posted by res

I wonder what they will cost when they finally get to NZ

Using the historic rule of thumb... Roughly double.

I think close to 3k

Hmmm that would make them a real contender if they shoot well.

I for one could imagine ringing some gongs on a certain farm with a 6.5