Sako vixen options

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17-05-2022, 10:37 PM
rambo-6mmrem

Sako vixen options

Have the Opportunity to get a vixen it’s currently in 204ruger trueflite barrel and the owner is a good mate who used it as his work rifle
(Goat culler) and so it has a very high round count could be anywhere from 6000-15000 rounds
Still shooting well under moa at 100
But I know Realistically if I grab it it will probably need to be rebarreled

My use for this rifle would be a general purpose small game rifle with the ability to take everything from bunny’s to smaller Species of deer and goats if required

Im thinking 6x45 (6mm-223)
Is there any other good options
Don’t really want a 222-223

Also what would you think a sako a1 (not a l461) (I understand that they are pretty much the same?)
Would be worth in good but we’ll used condition
17-05-2022, 10:43 PM
Friwi

I think wingman has got a reamer in 6x45 and might be able to help you rebarrel your Sako.
17-05-2022, 10:46 PM
rambo-6mmrem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friwi

I think wingman has got a reamer in 6x45 and might be able to help you rebarrel your Sako.

Yep been talking to wingman
Via pm
Just wanna see what others think aswell
17-05-2022, 10:55 PM
Tentman

I have one of Cam's Bartelin 6.5 featherweight barrel blanks that would be nice in a Vixen . . . .
17-05-2022, 10:59 PM
rambo-6mmrem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tentman

I have one of Cam's Bartelin 6.5 featherweight barrel blanks that would be nice in a Vixen . . . .

If I could go 6.5 Grendel id be all over it
Wingman informs me that this would be too much work as requires unobtainable parts aswell as the Obvious bolt face Modifications
17-05-2022, 11:13 PM
HandH

The CZ 527 223 take off barrels can be fitted FWIW. My A1 222 has been thus rebarreled.
17-05-2022, 11:41 PM
Tentman

6.5-204 ?? Doesn't @mikee have one?
17-05-2022, 11:57 PM
rambo-6mmrem

Yeah 6.5tcu is another option but looks like it’s only capable of just over 2000fps with a 120gn
Just a bit slow for what i would want if I went 6.5 ideally id like to drive 100gn at 2800 and 120gn at 2600 ish
6x45 stands out as the obvious option right now
75 at about 2900 or 85 at about 2600 from what I hear
18-05-2022, 01:14 AM
caberslash

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

Have the Opportunity to get a vixen it’s currently in 204ruger trueflite barrel and the owner is a good mate who used it as his work rifle
(Goat culler) and so it has a very high round count could be anywhere from 6000-15000 rounds
Still shooting well under moa at 100
But I know Realistically if I grab it it will probably need to be rebarreled

My use for this rifle would be a general purpose small game rifle with the ability to take everything from bunny’s to smaller Species of deer and goats if required

Im thinking 6x45 (6mm-223)
Is there any other good options
Don’t really want a 222-223

Also what would you think a sako a1 (not a l461) (I understand that they are pretty much the same?)
Would be worth in good but we’ll used condition

You are probably better off with either a Howa Mini or Rem Model 7 TBH, off the shelf replacement components available, can be picked up relatively cheap

'Flaws' of the Sako Vixen

- Sako dovetails, difficult to fit picatinny rail, expensive, can interfere with ejection, increases overall scope height unnecessarily

- Trigger OK but not excellent, think crisp break but a few lb's, replacement from Canjar is hen's teeth, could try and source a Maddco or Bix N Andy but huge cost

- Stocks, if you don't jive with the original wooden stock, you are pretty much stuck for 'off the shelf' replacements, McMillan used to inlet them but no longer, could try Wildcat Composites of Canada

- Bolt, the small size is a benefit and a disadvantage, extractor quite small, improved a bit on the A1 over the L461, parts like firing pin spring and bolt guide retention spring are hard to find.

- Internal box magazine does not fit very well into the action/stock assembly, follower and spring are not retained by the floorplate (it can slide out if you open the floorplate from the bottom)

-Ejector/bolt stop assembly, relies on a bent piano wire spring... not the most robust

- Been a bit mythologised by the books, yes it's a good rifle and probably the best 'small action' out there in terms of build quality, sadly it's been either over valued by collectors who now treat them like safe queens or the ones that have been heavily used (read abused) would require small parts to rebuild that cost more than the rifle is worth...

I own one, and love it, but it's not the bushman's equivalent of a lightsaber like some would have you believe...
@rambo-6mmrem , Sako did make a PPC version as well so a Grendel would be possible.

@Norway did a nice 6.5 Grendel conversion with the less popular Sako S491

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKuZ...hannel=THLR.NO
18-05-2022, 08:29 AM
Mathias

6x45 all the way. I've got two on Vixens, one with an 18" barrel & the other in 23". They are both very accurate, the 18" has the edge as its a Bartlein barrel and the other TF. Wingman will tell you all about the limitations of OAL in the mag, this is why you have to stick with a 45mm case, forget about TCU or 6mm204 or 6.5-204 its not long enough to be versatile over the 223 case.
18-05-2022, 08:48 AM
mikee

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

Yeah 6.5tcu is another option but looks like it’s only capable of just over 2000fps with a 120gn
Just a bit slow for what i would want if I went 6.5 ideally id like to drive 100gn at 2800 and 120gn at 2600 ish
6x45 stands out as the obvious option right now
75 at about 2900 or 85 at about 2600 from what I hear

Fwiw my 6.5TCU in a 24 inch barrel drives a 130gnnosler rdf @ 2500fps. 123eld-m appro @ 2550fps.
I have shot thousands and thru mine. Currently parked up as i have too many other things to shoot.
Very effective it is
18-05-2022, 09:43 AM
rambo-6mmrem

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikee

Fwiw my 6.5TCU in a 24 inch barrel drives a 130gnnosler rdf @ 2500fps. 123eld-m appro @ 2550fps.
I have shot thousands and thru mine. Currently parked up as i have too many other things to shoot.
Very effective it is

Wow that’s alot better than the load data suggested
18-05-2022, 02:07 PM
Dreamer

Magazine length is the only draw back if you wanted to use long sleek pills.
18-05-2022, 02:35 PM
Dama dama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamer

Magazine length is the only draw back if you wanted to use long sleek pills.

This. It's pretty cramped even with standard length bullets for .223. I assume it was designed around the shorter .222.
18-05-2022, 02:51 PM
Pav

@Bagheera has a short wee carbon stocked 6.5 Grendel built on a sako vixen action (originally 6mm PPC I believe).
18-05-2022, 04:12 PM
Mathias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pav

@Bagheera has a short wee carbon stocked 6.5 Grendel built on a sako vixen action (originally 6mm PPC I believe).

I built one from a L461 parts rifle. I bought a PPC mag box & follower from the US and milled the action to suit, opened bolt face etc. Came up really nice. Its living up in Hawkes Bay area now iirc.

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18-05-2022, 05:47 PM
csmiffy

Nope dont do it.
It is obviously shot out and buggered and also worthless.
I'll shout you a pie and a six pack of beers to take it off your hands.
19-05-2022, 08:51 AM
Hunter_Nick

6x45 is your best bet. However with the shortish mag box, I suggest you’ll be using @Wingman zero freebore reamer. This will then have you effectively only using 70-75gr bullets (which isn’t a bad thing). With that setup I’d be going to a 1-14” twist barrel and running it hot. You’ll get a pretty easy 3000fps with those bullet weights, and it’ll shoot tight groups.

I’ve had a number of 6x45s, and still have one. Currently shoot 70gr ballistic tips in it, have no problems shooting any deer within sensible ranges. Another mate of mine has shot animals tallying close to hundreds with this projectile.
19-05-2022, 10:17 AM
rambo-6mmrem

Decided against the hole idea
And have sold the vixen 204 on behalf