Thread: scope decision

Originally Posted by Proudkiwi

I have March, S&B and Nightforce scopes. In terms of glass clarity the S&B and March leave the Nightforce for dead. If anyone's trying to tell you they are close or comparable then they don't know their arse from their elbow.

Mechanically the Nightforce is brilliant and I have never seen one with an incorrect click value. You dial 10 MOA or Mil up and that's where the bullet hits, assuming you can shoot of course. The S&B is every bit as good mechanically and I much prefer the feel of the clicks. Personally I find the NF clicks a bit mushy.

As I said earlier March tactical optics are amazing,especially considering they only have a 44mm obj lens. The tubes are no where near as tough as either the S&B or NF. However they are WAY lighter!! Turrets are magic, clicks are almost as good as the S&B but not quite. Certainly better than the NF. Jury is still out on their click values however.

Given the parameters you've given I would go a S&B PMII in 5-25 or a Hendsolt.

Could you give us a run down on the click value errors in the march? Ie how you identified them ,how bad they they are and most imortantly what Stuart Elliot said re fixing the problem?

Originally Posted by sneeze

Could you give us a run down on the click value errors in the march? Ie how you identified them ,how bad they they are and most imortantly what Stuart Elliot said re fixing the problem?

I have only tested one of the March scopes but found that for the first 10moa of up the clicks were correct but from 10-20 they increased slightly in value per click.

For the test the rifle was clamped down on a concrete bench on a calibrated 100 yard range aimed at a test pattern with graduation marks. Elevation was then dialed in while watching the reticle against the test pattern.

I didn't contact Stuart about it because it wasn't a big issue for me once I established the actual click values.

I should also mention that the scope is 100% consistent and repeatable so that while the clicks might not be exactly .25 MOA per click they never changed from what they actually were.

Originally Posted by Proudkiwi

I have only tested one of the March scopes but found that for the first 10moa of up the clicks were correct but from 10-20 they increased slightly in value per click.

For the test the rifle was clamped down on a concrete bench on a calibrated 100 yard range aimed at a test pattern with graduation marks. Elevation was then dialed in while watching the reticle against the test pattern.

I didn't contact Stuart about it because it wasn't a big issue for me once I established the actual click values.

I should also mention that the scope is 100% consistent and repeatable so that while the clicks might not be exactly .25 MOA per click they never changed from what they actually were.

Cheers, so how much was the increase? Its not a cheap scope, I'd be talking to Stuart to at least get his thoughts on it.I think he'd like hear about any possible issues direct and have a chance to fix any problems.

I didn't think people disregarded Nightforce scopes so much - Sounds like I'm wrong. I myself use a Nightforce 5.5-22x50 NPR1 scope after upgrading from a Leupold MK4. Yes the glass isn't as good as an S & B or March but I find their eye relief & placement critical in comparison. I think of the Nightforce as a Mac truck - Solid, dependable & will get the job done. Even if I had the extra money to spend I'd be buying another Nightforce simply for this reason.