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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    I brought the press used (just) and with some dies.

    NEW price on press is over $8kUS and dies are over $1k a set - with a waiting period on dies of up to 2 years - I'm 1 year into it and still not got my punches I need
    think i will stick with what ive got!!!!

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    I brought the press used (just) and with some dies.

    NEW price on press is over $8kUS and dies are over $1k a set - with a waiting period on dies of up to 2 years - I'm 1 year into it and still not got my punches I need
    I'm still struggling with the Yanks & their lead times.....

    It's like a gigantic pissing competition to see who can make their customers wait the longest

    If you pay some of them a big fee up to & over 100% you can cut your lead time by half or more

    If Kiwis were in that position most of us would get more staff/machinery & turn stuff out faster.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    I'm still struggling with the Yanks & their lead times.....

    It's like a gigantic pissing competition to see who can make their customers wait the longest

    If you pay some of them a big fee up to & over 100% you can cut your lead time by half or more

    If Kiwis were in that position most of us would get more staff/machinery & turn stuff out faster.....
    Yip or work more than a 8 hour day
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    One guy I deals with has over 2 years wait time.
    He has 2 guys working for him in the workshop.
    He wont hire someone else, thus making 50% more money and reducing his backlog to 16 months and probably getting more business due to the fact people dont turn away due to wait time.
    Then again, hes been doing this for 40 years and you cant change him - he;ll send you a 20000 word essay on why NOT to do it - in which he could have propably done the job you wanted doing.
    BUT if you pay double price to cover his overtime for staff etc etc you get it within 30 days.
    I'm ALMOST at that point where I've had enough and will just pay, then again I cant quite yet justify over $500us for a single punch let alone $700 for a jacket serrater I need to progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    One guy I deals with has over 2 years wait time.
    He has 2 guys working for him in the workshop.
    He wont hire someone else, thus making 50% more money and reducing his backlog to 16 months and probably getting more business due to the fact people dont turn away due to wait time.
    Then again, hes been doing this for 40 years and you cant change him - he;ll send you a 20000 word essay on why NOT to do it - in which he could have propably done the job you wanted doing.
    BUT if you pay double price to cover his overtime for staff etc etc you get it within 30 days.
    I'm ALMOST at that point where I've had enough and will just pay, then again I cant quite yet justify over $500us for a single punch let alone $700 for a jacket serrater I need to progress

    So the first caliber(s) you will be producing when you eventually receive them will be?
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    This stuff is for 30cal
    I have gear for 44 at the moment but waiting on a wire extrusion die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    This stuff is for 30cal
    I have gear for 44 at the moment but waiting on a wire extrusion die
    Interesting. I have plans of commandeering the old mans single shot s/s 308 and butchering it for a bush gun,just need funds for scope and suppressor.

    Any way you could get a drawing of dies and get them made in NZ? might not be cheaper but would be a hell of a lot faster
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Interesting. I have plans of commandeering the old mans single shot s/s 308 and butchering it for a bush gun,just need funds for scope and suppressor.

    Any way you could get a drawing of dies and get them made in NZ? might not be cheaper but would be a hell of a lot faster
    Drawings dont exist - there is literally 3 people in the world that make them
    I spose the real trick is in the hardening and the hand lapping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    Drawings dont exist - there is literally 3 people in the world that make them
    I spose the real trick is in the hardening and the hand lapping
    bugger
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    Hows progress on the dies spanners? Have a short single shot s/s suppressed rifle waiting for some expanding subs
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    I believe Barnes make special sub sonic pills designed for 300BLK. Might be worth a look if you can find them. Digit's bringing in some 300BLK stuff.

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    Ill look into it cheers, Still keen to try some of spanners when he gets up and running
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    Subsonic .308s

    STILL waiting..... If I had a pre order for 1000x then I'd pay the extra (double) and have it here is 30days.
    But an extra grand to get these guys to actually do the last punch doesn't float my boat

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    E T A ? or is it a case of youl get them when we are good and ready and you will be real grateful
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    Subsonic .308s

    Barnes make a 110 TTSX for the BLK. Basically jumping on the bandwagon more than any actual good IMO. They already had a bullet and made it worse for the BLK.
    No sub that I'm aware of or can find reference too.
    Expanding subs are on the tacticool shooters list of needs

 

 

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