Thread: Tikka hardy rifle

Originally Posted by scoped

its still a t3 at the end of the day

Action wise yes

I would expect them to be pretty shit hot at that price.

What is interesting is how pimping up a good rifle to the max with modern materials seems to be reaching a ceiling at the $5000 to $6000.
As if you place an order for a very fancy traditional custom wood and blue steel rifle , $6000 might be just the deposit for the order .

After reading the article in the precedent pages, I wonder what hardy is gona be making next.... That is going to require 3 time the amount of staff he has got: who want to speculate ?
I say an ammo plant

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

I remember when we were men, and it didn't occur to us to care what a rifle weighed, or what fraction of moa it shot, we zeroed at 200yds and killed everything we pointed it at out to 300yds without fuss, with whatever ammunition we happened to get our hands on. And we walked barefoot in the frost and stood in cow pats to warm our feet up too, sigh, oh for back when we were men...........

Priceless, well less than one of these tiki things anyhow

5k? Just to be a sheep and no doubt many will be 7mm08..... 5k to shoot no further than 550y? like I said before its just H&f putting that guy up for selling shit en masse

Righto that's their choice but seriously you could quite easily build one yourself for cheaper with a better action(HOWA comes to mind for less $).

How do the carbon barrels hold up, epoxy isnt really considered a high temp material with max working temps of 100-150c

There are epoxies resisting 160 to 180 degreesC. Carbon can resist much higher temperatures.
But maybe that the metal of the barrel never really reach those 150 degreesC in a normal bolt action rifle?

Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter

5k? Just to be a sheep and no doubt many will be 7mm08..... 5k to shoot no further than 550y? like I said before its just H&f putting that guy up for selling shit en masse

Righto that's their choice but seriously you could quite easily build one yourself for cheaper with a better action(HOWA comes to mind for less $).

Boot it with your Howa support programme

I just bought a Howa

Originally Posted by Timmay

I just bought a Howa

I just had a look at it not 2 bad

Get ya grubby hands off it!!

Originally Posted by Friwi

There are epoxies resisting 160 to 180 degreesC. Carbon can resist much higher temperatures.
But maybe that the metal of the barrel never really reach those 150 degreesC in a normal bolt action rifle?

The actual interesting part is the effect of the harmonic vibrations on the carbon/steel bond. When you fire your rifle, the barrel "waves" like a flagpole in the wind. I imagine that eventually, the bond between the steel and the carbon will start to de-laminate.
EDIT: There's also a question about how the carbon wrapping does in terms of heat dissipation. The carbon wrap is like a giant layer of insulation, would the barrel stay hotter for longer?

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

How do the carbon barrels hold up, epoxy isnt really considered a high temp material with max working temps of 100-150c

There are studies done on this with sustained fire weapons. The verdict is that the heat build up will often cause de-lamination.

Originally Posted by Daggers_187

There are studies done on this with sustained fire weapons. The verdict is that the heat build up will often cause de-lamination.

Well maybe these do work ok, Im never going to spend that much money on one, it is just the engineer in my questioning things, there was also a comment in the article about it helping with heat dissipation which raised some flags since a carbon epoxy composite is a reasonably good insulator.

It would be interesting to see what the layup is and how they get around any delamination problems when it is cured with the different thermal expansion rates. At a guess I would say that if you can have the finished barrel with the carbon tube being a tight fit over the steel the actual bond between the two may not be all that important because the modulus of steel and carbon is so different

Carbon coating barrels is not a new thing , magnum research have been doing it for years, they even produce a composite barrel, volquartson do it as well.