Thread: Utas .223

Anyone looking at the Utas Defen. NZ compliant AR style straight pull .223 that Delta Mike is importing?
Not a huge amount of info on the comomay out there.
Was wondering if anyone had anything to share..

I’m waiting on one.
Shipping is now Sep/Oct.

The factory charging handle is left side only.
Also from the pics it’s not a big handle. So I’m avoiding any scopes or scope mounts that have large bolts on the left side.
Saves on scraped fingers or knuckles.

The charging handle on the left is a big put off for me for what I would use one for ie service rifle competions. To me, being a right handed shooter, I think it would be a pain to try and cycle the bolt when in the prone position or when utilising a sling, compared to a bolt handle on the right. Now if I was a lefty I would be seriously looking at one.

However I can see it working for the likes of ipsc rifle and 3 gun where only one shot per target is required and you can rack the bolt when moving/transitioning to another target.

@NZShoota I'm a lefty and find that if I'm firing a r/h bolt prone it's really easy as finger stays on trigger and your other hand works the bolt, once used to the movements its pretty quick. Useless when you need your second hand to support rifle though

Or a change in government and a new arms act

Originally Posted by 55six

Or a change in government and a new arms act

You eternal optimist

Far too many Karens and Kens out there that think they will be seriously injured just looking at one for too long

Originally Posted by 55six

Or a change in government and a new arms act

I still think it's very feasible. We're not getting general use of A cat semi auto centrefires back, but further exemptions for pest control and for sports shooters should be the minimum demand, and both National and ACT were talking along these lines last election. Bring back E cat and get rid of P is not unreasonable.

Originally Posted by XR500

You eternal optimist

Far too many Karens and Kens out there that think they will be seriously injured just looking at one for too long

Err ok

My understanding is that ACT have a new arms act that would re-introduce the E category at least. With Nicole sitting at 3 on the list and national needing ACT next year it’s actually a reality.

For me personally straightpull ARs are just a temporary fix. Others see them as a permanent option. Whatever rocks your boat.

Originally Posted by NZShoota

The charging handle on the left is a big put off for me for what I would use one for ie service rifle competions. To me, being a right handed shooter, I think it would be a pain to try and cycle the bolt when in the prone position or when utilising a sling, compared to a bolt handle on the right. Now if I was a lefty I would be seriously looking at one.

However I can see it working for the likes of ipsc rifle and 3 gun where only one shot per target is required and you can rack the bolt when moving/transitioning to another target.

I’m planning on having my 2 point sling in nice and tight.
Keeping the UTAS in my shoulder so racking with the left and then back to the handguard for firing.

Originally Posted by 55six

Err ok

My understanding is that ACT have a new arms act that would re-introduce the E category at least. With Nicole sitting at 3 on the list and national needing ACT next year it’s actually a reality.

For me personally straightpull ARs are just a temporary fix. Others see them as a permanent option. Whatever rocks your boat.

Personally I would love that to happen. I just hope the Nats can start sorting their shit out to appear more professional. Act are the stand out performers from my myopic view, esp when it comes to practical firearm legislation.

I understand that current tactical training keeps the trigger finger on the trigger, and the other hand operates the bolt.

so a right handed shooter operates the bolt with the left hand

My Troy arrived set up like this too, but can be swapped over in a few minutes. I am left-handed so worked fine for me.

Originally Posted by rockland

I understand that current tactical training keeps the trigger finger on the trigger, and the other hand operates the bolt.

so a right handed shooter operates the bolt with the left hand

My Troy arrived set up like this too, but can be swapped over in a few minutes. I am left-handed so worked fine for me.

“current tactical training “ NZ Police and NZDF, still have semi autos so above comment is irrelevant.

Thanks for the replies team. Shame the charging handle couldn't be moved to either side to suit shooter.
Regarding moves to change gun laws, I agree that ACT may be our best hope.

Dogmatix, any thoughts on the manufacturer? I haven't read anything bad about them online.
I'm very close to pulling the proverbial trigger and putting my deposit down.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

I’m planning on having my 2 point sling in nice and tight.
Keeping the UTAS in my shoulder so racking with the left and then back to the handguard for firing.

We expect a full test fire report when you get it