Hi all,
Wondering if someone here might be able to help me value this rifle. It is a Brno Model 2 in excellent condition, with a leupold 2-7x33 scope, and a dpt suppressor.
Any ideas as to the value of these?
Kindest regards
D
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Hi all,
Wondering if someone here might be able to help me value this rifle. It is a Brno Model 2 in excellent condition, with a leupold 2-7x33 scope, and a dpt suppressor.
Any ideas as to the value of these?
Kindest regards
D
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Has the woodwork been refinished? Looks quite light.
I would be around the $800 mark, possibly more depending which model Leupold.
Thank you! That's what I felt was right for this rifle too.
Possibly refinished - looks lighter in the photo that in person.
Mine is the same shadeQuote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman
Do you have the rear sight?
Also being threaded decreases its value.
Its there - isn't it ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuckerbox
Bare rifle should be 6-700
I personally like darker wood - like the one I have
Unless you want to use a suppressor, in which case it increases the value by about the $80 it would cost to get threaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuckerbox
Before reading anyone else's comments my thought was $600 rifle and $200-300 for scope depending on which model.
Not from a collector's point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by systolic
Do you know the date of manufacture? If not it's stamped on the LH side of the barrel and receiver as two digits. The early Brno's i.e. before CZ took over in late 1967, are far more valuable if in very good condition, unaltered and original. The stock has been chequered on the fore-end which was not standard. Even so with the modifications, your rifle looks to be in very good condition and with the Leupold scope is well worth $800 provided the bore is in excellent condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypticaman
depends . . . a value for insurance purposes vrs what you could get realistically for it this time of year if
you wanted to sell, the difference is huge.
Pretty sure that the later ones actually have CZ markings on them, I was told mine is an early one and it only has Brno markingsQuote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
Also of note mine doesn't have chequering on the forend
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Ryan,
What year was your rifle manufactured? The date (shown as a two digit number e.g. 74 meaning 1974) is at the front of the receiver on the left hand side and on the breech end of the barrel adjacent to that.
Spot on, it's a buyers market at the moment. Lots of potential bargains around with people paying off Christmas bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossi.45
Nice if you have the money to pick and choose.
What year is that RyanQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Thought I had a goodin :(
Someone done a big/g8 job on the wood finish !!!
I see your partly answered it above that post
Does it still have a year marking ?? Yours I mean
So I just did some reading on a European forum and it goes like this (if I understand correctly)
Brno started making the model 2 in 1956
In 1967 CZ took over manufacturing but rifles were still marked Brno.
1974 CZ began making the 452 whilst still producing the model 2 but it was now called the 2E with some slight changes but still marked as a Brno.
After this time the CZ-Brno relationship became so complicated it is anyone's guess who manufactured what and is beyond the comprehension of most.
Mine is a 2E and is marked 1986, I liked the look of them for a long time (They are what the Norinco JW rifle copied, of course a lot more refined than a norinco though) and when I saw this one for sale I just had to have it, I paid $750 for it which some may say is a lot for a used 80s bolt action 22 but it is a brilliant little rifle with a really nice action and trigger and shoots lights out tiny little groups
So to the original poster if your rifle is a Model 2 (not a 2e) then it would be pre 80s and possibly have decent value to somebody.
Good info Ryan
Just looked at mine - I thought it was 79 - buts its 89
I paid 600 4-5 years ago which was big money then - but like you liked the feel etc and has difinatly not disapointed me - lovely shooter
Was owned by a cop (or ex cop) down your way actually
Model 2e
Hmmm mine has the same chequering and same wood ( a little scruffier though ). Will get a photo later onQuote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
Your 2E looks in beautiful condition Ryan.
You pretty much got it right about Brno/CZ. When CZ took over from Brno in late 67 they continued to use Brno parts until the inventory ran out and then they started to produce their own under the Brno label. The early CZ completely made rifles weren't too crash hot and were quite a bit more rough in their metal finishing. The barrels still shot okay although some claim they weren't as accurate as the earlier Brno made rifles.
The CZ Model 2 is the made to the same design as the Brno ZKM 452. The Model 2-E is still pretty much exactly the same except for some stock changes such a hogs back shaped butt instead of the earlier straight sloping butt Brno M2, no detent ball in the root of the bolt handle and a slight change to the ejection port.
CZ upgraded their machinery and QC in the early 80's and started to produce some really nicely finished rifles.
There was a special edition made with checkering on the fore end but can't recall the year and exact details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
I used to collect Brno rimfire rifles but that was a while ago now.
I sold my Model 2E in a fit of stupidity about 2004, but it was anything but original rear sight was removed, remaining step was turned off barrel and barrel shortened to 16 inches, threaded and re-blued. Shot like a demon and i would buy it back if I could find it. :(
Just a few sold lately
1980 model2 bare gun not threaded $699.99
1980 action 1981 barrel,model 2, bare gun not threaded wear on bluing $600 , sold last week
1956 model 2 vgc , original scope,rings,sling, receipt, spent last 40yrs in a gun safe, rust mark on trigger guard $750 sold very quickly
collecters want unthreaded guns, if they use a silencer it will be a silent kill model
As soon as you fuck with it the value to a collector is gone , I only use silent kill suppressors for this reason .
I have one made in 1963 according to the date stamp on barrel,it is threaded but I think I got a bargain for once from humping and fishing,not the fancy stock though,think it was the “farmers” model,shoots well and nice trigger compared to the chopped jw15 I have...prefer the 10/22 now though..
My Brno Mod 5 had similar light wood, I think it's beech rather than walnut.
Here is a chart giving some guidance. It is not complete in detail by any means as there appeared to be variations with some rifles made on certain dates having different styles of chequering and also the multi groove barrels popping up on later rifles.
As already posted CZ took over from the BRNO company of the Models 1 and 2s around 1967. BRNO engineers continued for a short overlap. The original BRNO company ceased to exist although that is murky too. CZ did initially use parts left over from BRNO. There was a decline in quality for a period after CZ took over. The later years saw improved quality and the likes of the 2e is a fine rifle.
The rifles continued to display the BRNO moniker even though they were being produced by an entirely different company. This was some commie govt thing I think. Again, that period was pretty murky to the outside world.
So, when someone lists a rifle say for example dated 1987, on Tardme claiming it to be a BRNO it is not, it is a CZ. Likewise I have seen the odd Zastava listed as a BRNO.
One of the worst rifles I have owned was a 455, I got a real lemon. One of the nicest rifles I own us a BRNO Mod 1.
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Good info there @zimmer , yes I would say 6-700ish is about right , my Model 1 was made in 1954 and would never part with it , trigger isn't the best on the 1's but you get used to it
