Thread: What can be done to improve the Remington Model 7 trigger?

Got a model 7 with its original trigger.

It was originally really light. Got it sorted by a gunsmith to be a tad heavier. It's about 1.5lbs now and is a gem. Just get it tuned to your liking by a competent gunsmith and you'll be right.

Originally Posted by Hayden C

I like a nice light pull weight, ideally somewhere around the 1.5-2lbs mark which will be the same as other rifles in the stable. This is my first Remington I’ve owned, and all other rifles are Tikkas fitted with ‘Yo Daves’ aftermarket trigger springs.

I have no experience with Remington triggers to know if this is even possible with the factory trigger, online tutorials show me how to adjust the grub screws, but realistically can I (or a gunsmith) achieve what I’m wanting with the factory setup, or do I throw it away and buy something aftermarket.

Also, the safety on this rifle seems to need a lot of force to engage, disengage. I’m not sure if this is typical but seems excessive.

What have others done with their Mod 7’s to improve the trigger and what is the best I can hope for without having to fork out for something aftermarket?

You have to remember that from the late 1980's onwards, triggers on new rifles were designed by lawyers, not gunsmiths.

The aftermarket ones are designed by gunsmiths.

My late 1970's Ruger 10/22 had a beautiful smooth trigger. The early 00's one I picked up cheap had a trigger you almost dislocated your finger attempting to pull it

That's it in a nutshell.

Originally Posted by johnd

There was a trigger recall on some Mod sevens. If you fall in the bracket and it hasn't been done you can elect to upgrade to a Timney or whatever, I did this and so a Timney upgrade was chump change. Free plug for Hamills Tauranga

https://www.productsafety.govt.nz/re...ro-xmp-trigger

Timney

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) it's not one of the models that is affected by the recall.

I think this might be a case of trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse when considering what I'm trying to match, and I like all my rifles with the same(ish) trigger pull so I don't get caught out. After more dicking around I just can't get an acceptable pull weight without it becoming dangerous.

Cam (Alpine precision) can get in the Trigger Techs, but needs to do 15 or so at a time - are there 15 dissatisfied Model 7 owners out there looking to upgrade, otherwise it looks like I'll have to go the Timney route.

I have a Triggertech on a Model 7 and a Timney on a different rifle. I really like the Triggertech trigger, it's a tad heavier than the Timney, but I actually like the overall feel of it a bit better than the Timney. YMMV, but that's my 2c.
I have heard that with the Model 7 Timney some may struggle to get a low weight, which is why I went with the Trigger Tech. In hindsight, no regerts.

Yeh, +2 on dissatisfied m7 trigger, have faffed around with mine quite a bit and of the same opinion heavy to unsafe...just dosent want to settle where I would like.
Did find that if I left a little free play travel in the trigger itself the sear could be set to a softer yet safer range, but still little more than i would like.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Triggertech.

It will kick the arse of a Timney (which will ALWAYS have a degree of creep, even with dangerous levels of sear engagement).

I think it's safer to say that one can imagine that a trigger tech may be a marginally nicer feeling trigger in some circumstances. The timney is a perfectly fine trigger and doesn't hold a shooter back from exceptional results. Internet imaginary difference syndrome strikes again

The factory Xmark trigger is irredeemable

Jewel.....it's just noooice to use and oh so easy to adjust.

Originally Posted by gimp

I think it's safer to say that one can imagine that a trigger tech may be a marginally nicer feeling trigger in some circumstances. The timney is a perfectly fine trigger and doesn't hold a shooter back from exceptional results. Internet imaginary difference syndrome strikes again

Trigger tech or Timney I'll take whatever I can get my hands on and highly doubt id be able to tell the difference.

Tell me, for those that have the Timney are they adjustable within the range they claim.

Gunworks is local to me and advertising the Timney but also state: Timney website says 1.5lb to 4lb but the lowest our gunsmiths could get to was 3-3.5lb

Originally Posted by gimp

I think it's safer to say that one can imagine that a trigger tech may be a marginally nicer feeling trigger in some circumstances. The timney is a perfectly fine trigger and doesn't hold a shooter back from exceptional results. Internet imaginary difference syndrome strikes again

For some reason people's fingers seem to believe everything thier eyes read. I've tried both Bixn'andy and Triggertech (2 of) and the Timney Calvin Elite is better than either in any sensible hunting weight, the measured letoff is more consistent and with better feel.

If the current factory Rem trigger is about 50% good, then the Bergara can be gotten to 75% (extremely usable for any hunting rifle including varminting and informal match/gong shooting), the triggertech/Bixn'andy 85%, the high grade timneys a smidge more and if you want stupid good then you're looking for one of the old BR Jewels or a Chompart design - the "GC" trigger approach 100%.

Originally Posted by gimp

I think it's safer to say that one can imagine that a trigger tech may be a marginally nicer feeling trigger in some circumstances. The timney is a perfectly fine trigger and doesn't hold a shooter back from exceptional results. Internet imaginary difference syndrome strikes again

I have used both, the Timney sucks. They are for the most part a copy of the original Remington trigger with mostly similar internals.

The Triggertech is much easier to adjust and impossible to make unsafe. There have been issues with the Diamond line in 'custom' actions but their Special line is pretty bombproof.

Timney has nearly dropped out of the competitive rifle scene for a reason. Yes, people are free to choose an objectively worse product for simillar money (like buying a new Leupold instead of an Element or Sako instead of a T3) but can't complain that they were not warned...

Originally Posted by Hayden C

Trigger tech or Timney I'll take whatever I can get my hands on and highly doubt id be able to tell the difference.

Tell me, for those that have the Timney are they adjustable within the range they claim.

Gunworks is local to me and advertising the Timney but also state: Timney website says 1.5lb to 4lb but the lowest our gunsmiths could get to was 3-3.5lb

The "weight" of the trigger is only one of several performance characteristics, a well designed and set up 730gm trigger can be way superior and aid good shooting compared to a poor 450 gm

Originally Posted by gimp

The factory Xmark trigger is irredeemable

Originally Posted by gimp

I think it's safer to say that one can imagine that a trigger tech may be a marginally nicer feeling trigger in some circumstances. The timney is a perfectly fine trigger and doesn't hold a shooter back from exceptional results. Internet imaginary difference syndrome strikes again

100% correct on both counts @gimp - based on actual experience of owning a Model 7 with a Timney trigger I don't sit at home crying because it doesn't have a Triggertech trigger. In the real world it's more than good enough