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Hi guys,
I wanting to re blue my 30/30 near the action (previous owner I guess) and I wondered what you guys think would suit best? The blueing on the barrel is pretty good still.
Regards
Matt
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I would get a gunsmith to satin bead blast and reblue - while one is at it looks like some of the action screws could need a dress up - make the finished job just that much better - its easy to do - with right tools - the burring is gently tapped back into place and the slot carefully recut with correct files - make it all look like new - on that nice rifle all worth it -ps pictures of finished jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt308
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If you touch up the areas with some cold blue you might be surprised at the results. Won’t look like brand new but it will look used/period.
You cant blue that action. In the 1970's they finished them differently. If you try to blue it it will go purple. Dont do it.
An option would be to cerakote it, or just leave it as it is. It's an old Winchester 94. It's supposed to look like that.
My mid-80's M94 had a "case coloured" action.
I think it's done by heating and dousing in oil or something like that? It has a rainbow look similar to spilt oil/diesel
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I just looked up 'cerakoting' - it's an epoxy/ceramic finish and is considered very durable. You can get it in over 100 colours too - you got lots of choices there :)
As mentioned - you could just use it as is, it never really worried me if an old gun actually looked like an old gun - but that blueing loss is pretty unattractive as it doesn't appear to have worn off, it seems almost to have flaked off like a badly applied paint due to mistreatment. It reminds me of a 'bad hair' day and I'd hide it until it can be sorted - and I'd even attempt a 'cold blue' in the odd chance that you may improve it ......... or you can shoot it like it is and not give a toss what others think ............
Trying something never really hurt - unless you're trying it from a high building ............
I dunno .............
Thanks guys for your input, it’s never really worried me in the past, I just need to get a new bead/ front site and thought maybe it could do with some love……. Maybe it just needs a run ��
Cheers mate - a gun is like a hammer, it's just a tool and like any tool it needs to be kept in reasonable nick to keep doing its job.
Sometimes a gun can be a sex symbol and the factory it came out of can be important ........... like Chanel, Faberge, H&H and some others - but in the end it's just a delivery system, so it's more than a hammer ...... it's a mailman :)
Maybe a combination of hammer and mailman ........... it's a hard one.
That's what we used to call 'case hardening' - when a low carbon steel is soaked at quite high heat in a carbon rich material such as bone, leather, iron filings, then quenched to give a hard wearing surface.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
In this case it probably is just a heat application with chemicals and an oil quench - quite attractive :)
And I'm surprised no one has said - "Who wants to be seen with an ugly girl."Quote:
Originally Posted by SF90
Mate, its clearly horrible and past redemption..I give you $50 to take it off your hands
I think you have had some bad advice - look at the barrel - thats not case hardened thats blued - some winchesters came out with a case hardened look but I dont believe yours did - it simply does not look like a case hardened finish that has weathered over time - and the rifle is simply not old enough -I would go with my original adviceQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt308
I agree that it doesn't look like a weathered case hardened finish, but looking at the barrel won't tell you anything - my one with a case hardened receiver still had a blued barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
its a hunting rifle...not a safe queen or a range Barbie.....paint it and be done with it.... hammerite is awesome stuff.... harder than hobs of hell and looks good,sort of like grannies meat dish.....get your minds out of gutter....
of take it to gunsmith and get it reblued properly IF THEY SAY THATS CORRECT....
Haha top blokes the lot of ya.
You have a 'solid black finish with freckling' - and that's straight off the internet.
The originals had that too, you just got a lot of 'freckling' - you lucky bastard :)
Never seen a 'case hardened' barrel, or even a pretend 'cased' finish on a barrel, or even a B/A reciever come to that - but those slab sided actions often got 'tarted up' with them - so I expect it might be cosmetic.
And 'johnduxbury' might have got it right - might be nickel steel which can make it difficult to apply a quick 'finish'.
Either sweat (most likely) or blood has been left on it and it has rusted away. Just my thought.
Depends on your budget
Who said it was case hardened? Its not case hardened. As I said earlier, you cant blue 'Winchester 94 receivers from this mid-seventies period as they are made from a different alloy (unless you iron plate them.) They go purple. Meanwhile the barrel is not made of the same metal and is blued normally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
After this they started chrome lining them, and that was even worse, because it would flake off. You couldnt blue them either. Then in the late eighties and early nineties they went back to blueing the receivers normally.
Post '64 Winchester M94's have investment cast receivers and will not take conventional blue, coming out a horrible maroon/purple as has been previously mentioned. The factory iron plated the receivers before blueing and the patchy finish is where the very thin plating has worn or rusted off. Your best choice is to get it professionally Ceracoated, although it will still work perfectly well as it is.
Bloody hell, we were happy circling the wagons - and now you've gone and buggered it :oh noes:Quote:
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thanks John one does learn a lot from this forum looks like cerakote may be a go but Matt308 please not paintQuote:
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Everything is for sale, maybe more than $50….. 😁Quote:
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I have an old 80s copy of shooters bible somewhere with the opening article being a feature on the full history of the M94. It goes into its different production iterations including of course the changes made in 64. There is also mention of a receiver that started being produced in the 70’s that “defied rebluing”.
Many of the 94s seen for sale these days are almost without blueing on the receiver at all. Yours has more blueing than most.
I believe the loss of blue from these receivers gives the rifle a rustic look of utilitarian usage that suits it and without affecting its performance.
The best thing you can do is get out and hunt with it, carry it by the receiver and the freckles will be smoothed out. In due course it will look like a proper gun.
just to throw another option in the mix, you could also just keep a sharpie in the cleaning kit and use that for touch ups at the end of the day ;).
Sorry but that is a Win. M92 and didn't come in 30-30Quote:
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It was just a photo off the net showing a case coloured actionQuote:
Originally Posted by canuck hunter
This is my rifle’s case coloured action after 36 years of use, and it is a M94 in 30-30
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