Winchester 94

I was talking to a Guy this morning who was trying to sell a very average Win 94 to me for $1800. I asked him what was so special about this one that made it worth $1800 his reply was "they've stopped making them so they're collectors items now". I pointed out to him that his one was actually fucked and there was over 7,000,000 of them made and I was fairly sure that several had survived not just his one, he argued and told me I didn't know jack shit and he would go sell it to one of the gunshops in In'gill who would gladly take it off his hands for his price. I just wonder how many people are saving these things as collector items and how much others are willing to pay, can't wait for his update tomorrow after going to the Gunshops in In'gill and trying to get $1800 for it.
Maybe I'm missing something here but I can't see them being worth $1800 any time soon.
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Let me know if he gets rid of it, I have some collectible shit for sale too...

Have a look at what Broncos have for sale on t/me they are " collectables" give you some guide

Can I have his Phone Number, Can I.????
I have one that is not fucked, serial number 6 5XX XXX.
It's gotta be a steal at say, 2.5K then

To offer an opinion on your actual question, I've seen some shops try for silly money, one outfit had one on t/m for 1200 awhile back.
A very good second hand to some one who really wants one,should possibly go for the same price as a new Marlin maybe a touch more. Downwards from there.

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Have a look at what Broncos have for sale on t/me they are " collectables" give you some guide

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Maca49

They are NIB special edition commemorative rifles ..... can't really compare these rifles with fu*ked bog standard Winchester 94's.

As for standard Win 94's being collectable and worth the $$$ stated above .... I doubt it .... well not in my lifetime that is.

Cheers
Pete

Good one Pete, to me noWinchester is worth saving, except for serial #1:thumbsup:

The CRF pre-64 Winchesters were considered a better unit and fetched a higher price?
Winchester as such no longer make the 64 as it is now made by FN in the US IIRC. The 64 had a rather chequered run with poor QC and mediocre reviews at what I have seen. No LH offerings so I have no real experience. I guess now that FN do make the 64 the guy is technically correct, if not way off the mark?


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The Modern Lever guns I'm sure , could be wrong, are made in Japan and run $1250-1800 USD depending on the model.
US stopped making them about 2005-06 or there abouts.

$1800 for a average model 94 ,I think hes got his hand on it .
Might get that sort of money for a Yellow Boy but not a clunker .

In my view, there are basically three different categories (yes this is a gross generalisation, but it might help):

1) Post 64 (non comemorative) - the quality control in these is variable and some are very 'rattly/sloppy' in the action. Some, such as the later XTR models with angle eject are pretty nice, others are very basic. These are good working guns with, in my view, more limited collector value. For rougher specimens still in reasonable condition I would expect to pay $500 - $650. A very good specimen might fetch $850-$950 (around the price of a new Marlin), but I personally would be reluctant to pay much more than that ;

2) Pre 64 - this, for the purists, is the [only] real collectors one. I expect special order (delux takedowns, octagonal barrels etc) or to a lesser extent odd-ball calibres (38-55, 32-40 and possibly 25-35 etc) would command very big money (many thousands for a special order version), especially in the US - but these guns are very very rare in New Zealand (relatively speaking). A good pre-64 without any special attributes, but in original un-altered condition is probably worth $750 to $1000 depending on condition. A rough one is only worth what a working post 64 gun is worth - or maybe a smidgen more - as per the above ($500-$650). It would have to be a truely exceptional gun to command anything of significance over that. Nevertheless, an early serial number gun (perhaps pre 1927, which is when #1,000,000 was made), will command more - and a gun from the first two or three years of production is will command much more again.

3) Post 64 commemorative series. I personally don't think these are worth what people are paying for them. If you like tacky brass and nickel coated receivers (in a sloppy post 64 action) ... and cardboard boxes ... by all means go a head. Many purists will stop their collections at 1964, and won't bother with anything after that.

I paid $995 for a pre-64 30/30 a few years ago in what appears to be near unfired condition (which I still think is a whole lot of money for a 30/30, but I am happy)...

Remember quality is everything re collecting - if something has been butchered, altered, drilled and tapped, or refinished for many it will have no collector value.

And given there are around 7 million lingering in gun cabinets out there, I can't see the value increasing much anytime soon (think of what a Tikka T3 might be worth in 50 years time, lol).

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The CRF pre-64 Winchesters were considered a better unit and fetched a higher price?
Winchester as such no longer make the 64 as it is now made by FN in the US IIRC. The 64 had a rather chequered run with poor QC and mediocre reviews at what I have seen. No LH offerings so I have no real experience. I guess now that FN do make the 64 the guy is technically correct, if not way off the mark?


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Aagh total numbers fuck up on my behalf! I meant the Model 70 which is the bolt action, not the 64. Disregard anything I ever write again :(


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Aagh total numbers fuck up on my behalf! I meant the Model 70 which is the bolt action, not the 64. Disregard anything I ever write again :https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f15/winchester-94-a-10150-post171770/#post171770\" rel=\"nofollow\">

Aagh total numbers fuck up on my behalf! I meant the Model 70 which is the bolt action, not the 64. Disregard anything I ever write again :(


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Hahahahahah

Have you been hanging round that Whisky thread again James? ;)

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Hahahahahah

Have you been hanging round that Whisky thread again James? ;)

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Haha. Just trying to keep the cook outta my nice bottle of port actually. Not bad considering it came from across the ditch.


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Haha. Just trying to keep the cook outta my nice bottle of port actually. Not bad considering it came from across the ditch.


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It's too hot for drinking port James.

I leave that for those bitterly cold nights in mid winter.

BTW are you winning that battle?

Cheers
Pete

Well, surprise surprise.
The best offer he got was $250 as a trade in but he did offer it to me for $1000 "'cos the gunshops around here know jack shit" the dumb prick still hasn't worked it out.

Gotta love the stubborn ignorance of some people. :D

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Well, surprise surprise.
The best offer he got was $250 as a trade in but he did offer it to me for $1000 "'cos the gunshops around here know jack shit" the dumb prick still hasn't worked it out.

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Hahahaha

That's a good price for a Fu*Ked 94 too.

Tell him to hang onto it for a year or two because they will double in value due to Obamas anti gun legislation. ;)

Cheers
Pete

You should ask to look at it, then whack him over the head with it. Sounds like he needs it! Haha

If you can fix it offer him the trade price, maybe 10% extra.
you'll do ok.

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If you can fix it offer him the trade price, maybe 10% extra.
you'll do ok.

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I could fix it but I'm not a rabid fan of the '94 (oops Carlson Highway is gonna get me now)To fix it would require too much of my time when I could be hunting. I have a Marlin that will outshoot a '94 any day.

Thought you didn't know Carlson.

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Thought you didn't know Carlson.

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I looked him up after you mentioned him and saw through his posts that he is a fan (rabid) of the '94

Of course you did.

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This is my 48***** 94 trapper a few dints on the wood. good blue on barrel not much on the receiver. Im thinking about selling what do u guys recon its worth?

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This is my 48***** 94 trapper a few dints on the wood. good blue on barrel not much on the receiver. Im thinking about selling what do u guys recon its worth?

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$1799

Sweet thought 1800 might have been a bit steep but 1799 sounds more reasonable

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This is my 48***** 94 trapper a few dints on the wood. good blue on barrel not much on the receiver. Im thinking about selling what do u guys recon its worth?

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After the one that was offered to me I would guess this one wold be worth around $8,000 - $12,000

Shit boys, my 1954 built model 94 must be worth at least 35 to 40k then!

So.........anyone want to swap for a 6m hard top, surtees or stabicraft or something similar? :thumbsup:

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After the one that was offered to me I would guess this one wold be worth around $8,000 - $12,000

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Tell your mate that there is a trapper going dirt cheap for $2000 and that he could make 6-10k

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Tell your mate that there is a trapper going dirt cheap for $2000 and that he could make 6-10k

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Just to put things in perspective....He is NOT my mate, he is a fuckwit, same Guy threw away a new sako 30.06 and broke its stock because he couldn't get it to shoot with 270 ammo

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Just to put things in perspective....He is NOT my mate, he is a fuckwit, same Guy threw away a new sako 30.06 and broke its stock because he couldn't get it to shoot with 270 ammo

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Sounds like someone who could win a Darwin Award.:X3: Id suggest a wide berth around him in the future.

I remember a story on here about that

So how is that 30-06 shooting with a new stock on and correct ammo inserted.... Might pay to stick close to him despite what others say because there is definitely a very busy guardian angel looking after him and it sounds like his cast offs can be reused.:-)

Cops still have the 30.06 , I didn't get to keep it but it could still come my way after the offer I made for it

For sale
1 million NZD
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You split all that wood with that?

Nah, my 6.5 did most of it.