Worth repairing this scope?

It's a vintage burris zoomable scope 2x-7x x32?
Looks low profile and probably well suited to a lee enfield.
Never seen a zoomable scope in this size before, the eyepiece is actually larger than the front.
Looks like its rectile has moved, I think this is a common thing to happen with scopes if they have been subject to shock?
Basically it's moved around and looks like an X instead of pointing vertically.
I'm not sure of it's age, but its a quality brand, but have no idea if it was an expensive model but vintage scopes are being sought after and cosmetically its I'm good order.
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Those old Burris scopes were bloody good scopes. Definitely worth getting it fixed.........but where? or who? I dont think theres anybody left in NZ that is doing scope repairs, might have to go through the NZ Burris agent and send it away.

when yo usay reticle has moved.......some of the older scopes did that.....if mounted in wonky mounts you could end up with Xhairs sitting at 3 oclock and 3/4 of way across to egde of your circle of view....maybe try winding the adjustment right the way to left then all the way to right and half way back again...do same up n down then have another look..... with luck ,if Im right...it will put Xhair back in centre of picture..... nothing to loose.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

when yo usay reticle has moved.......some of the older scopes did that.....if mounted in wonky mounts you could end up with Xhairs sitting at 3 oclock and 3/4 of way across to egde of your circle of view....maybe try winding the adjustment right the way to left then all the way to right and half way back again...do same up n down then have another look..... with luck ,if Im right...it will put Xhair back in centre of picture..... nothing to loose.

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Ok, I will give that a go. No harm in trying. It only owes me $20, i got it at a gun show from a whole box of things to choose from, also got a good 7x fixed redfield.
Doesn't surprise me if some of the scopes on offer had issues, but for that price it was still worth grabbing.
I'm a bit spoilt for choice now and have a good selection of scopes, I'm just in lack of rifles to install them onto!

AND a X orintated Xhair is a GOOD thing for bush shooting...its a right bitch to sight in untill you get your head around it..but it works really well as MOST trees are upright so the X really stands out in poor light and in centres the eye nicely. I confess didnt read your origonal post corectly but scope may be ok still.... if it holds zero.... and doesnt fog ....I wouldnt hesitate to use it.

Richard Wilhelm (Wilhelm Arms and Optics) in Chch used to repair bino's and scopes but he's retired now. He might know where to send you though

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AND a X orintated Xhair is a GOOD thing for bush shooting...its a right bitch to sight in untill you get your head around it..but it works really well as MOST trees are upright so the X really stands out in poor light and in centres the eye nicely. I confess didnt read your origonal post corectly but scope may be ok still.... if it holds zero.... and doesnt fog ....I wouldnt hesitate to use it.

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Wow, didn't think it was normal to see a scope oriented in this way, would this potentially have been modded to be used like this?
Your right, I bet it would be a bitch to sight in like this.

It might be early ‘80’s vintage. Got one here somewhere still useable. Got a 2-7 mini version from same era, steel scope, currently on a bergara b13? Still good as gold. All Burris scopes are image moving, not reticle moving as far as I know. From memory Don Burris, scope designer, left Leupold to start his own line of scopes. I’d look at sending it to Burris for repair.

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Wow, didn't think it was normal to see a scope oriented in this way, would this potentially have been modded to be used like this?
Your right, I bet it would be a bitch to sight in like this.

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if yours has in fact been moved like that on purpose it wont be hard to sight in......when its hard is if you tilt scope at 45degrees.....but then @dannyb doesnt tell me my xhairs are on the piss(seem to do the 11;30 not 12;00 thing often) puts the two adjusting turrets on top so at 10;00 and 2;00 as it were.

@Micky Duck you're scopes are mounted fine :yaeh am not durnk:


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Originally Posted by woods223

It might be early ‘80’s vintage. Got one here somewhere still useable. Got a 2-7 mini version from same era, steel scope, currently on a bergara b13? Still good as gold. All Burris scopes are image moving, not reticle moving as far as I know. From memory Don Burris, scope designer, left Leupold to start his own line of scopes. I’d look at sending it to Burris for repair.

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Might end up doing that. Does Burris have a repair agent in NZ?
The fact that the crosshairs appear perfectly at 45 degrees suggests it's probably been intentionally moved rather than accidental damage.

turn the scope in the rings and you will be good to go. cant imagine why no one else suggested it ......

Way back in the early 90's I had an American client have a bit of a mishap in a large boulder field, and landed on his rifle with the scope on the bottom. The scope was a Burris, scope hit a rock on the front bell housing and bent it about 7-8mm out of line down towards the barrel. Didnt have opens, didnt have a spare scope. After a bit of thinking, I suggested we had nothing to lose, so used the head of an iceaxe to lever it off the barrel until it looked like it was in line. Then we sighted it in and about 8 shots later was shooting fine. The hunt continued successfully for another week. Tough scopes those Burris

I had this with a brand new Leupold. It's a prick and the eye doesn't like having the scope corsshairs at 45deg at all... With the scope out at an angle the corrections just suck.

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I had this with a brand new Leupold. It's a prick and the eye doesn't like having the scope corsshairs at 45deg at all... With the scope out at an angle the corrections just suck.

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bollocks....... for bush hunting in thick stuff it is awesome....the ONLY reason my main bush rifle isnt like it anymore is the post n rail reticle.
its not a new idea,cullers were doing it many years ago.

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Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

turn the scope in the rings and you will be good to go. cant imagine why no one else suggested it ......

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Sure I could, but would make sighting in a pain.

Iv got an old 2-7x33 maybe il have to double check leupold of a similar vintage on my .22mag thats also a similar vintage its awsome if you can get it fixed I would

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Sure I could, but would make sighting in a pain.

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Just tilt ya head to 45 degrees

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Originally Posted by Kelton

Iv got an old 2-7x33 maybe il have to double check leupold of a similar vintage on my .22mag thats also a similar vintage its awsome if you can get it fixed I would

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Yeah I definitely will. I might contact Burris and see if I can find out its vintage and model, etc.

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Originally Posted by m101a1

Just tilt ya head to 45 degrees

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Would be easier to leave as is and sight in as a normal scope or else if set to 45 degrees, you need to adjust both windage and elevation at the same time.

put your target on the board at .45 degrees IF your scope is turned... if scope dials are one on top one on side and its still going up when up is dialed ......do everything as per normal.
be aware some scopes of this era are half inch per graduation

Take to H&F and send it to Beretta NZ as they are the agents Burris have a real lifetime warranty and it will be repaired or replaced I sent one back last year of the same vintage due not focusing and was replaced in a month with a new one, cost me $5 in postage Not being the first owner is irrelevant to Burris They very good to deal with

send it to Beretta and they will probably give you a new (but modern) scope

Reticle element is usually a ring that screws into the back end of the scope and locked there with a little thread locker. They sometimes come loose and rotate out from recoil. Fixed 1 a few weeks ago by removing eye bell and simply turning the element straight again and applying small amount of thread locker. Was a cheap scope so wasn't worried about the re gassing, just did it quickly in a clean, dry environment. Worked perfect. Burris 'forever' warranty is great- have had 2 older scopes replaced with new (through Beretta nz). Also when dealing direct with burris, sent a scope to them for repair, they sent me an email saying the scope was bent (they don't repair or replace in that case) but they sent me their 'bent scope price list' and I was able to buy a really nice replacement at a excellent price. They were great to deal with. Even back a few years ago sending the scope to the US was expensive! Getting scopes repaired in NZ is almost a thing of the past- Rackstraw Instruments may still do it, shame really as this repair would be a 10 min job for someone with the right gear/skills.

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Take to H&F and send it to Beretta NZ as they are the agents Burris have a real lifetime warranty and it will be repaired or replaced I sent one back last year of the same vintage due not focusing and was replaced in a month with a new one, cost me $5 in postage Not being the first owner is irrelevant to Burris They very good to deal with

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Just been off the phone with them and thats exactly what they said to do! Pretty good customer service I must say!

If the crosshairs are exactly 45 degrees to the turret it suggests someone set it like that on purpose. I’d use it as is and enjoy the authentic history.

There was a guy in one of the Hutt's who regassed a redfield I had for a very reasonable price. I want to say it was 40 bucks but i don't actually remember.

@Old_School update time,how did you get on in the end???

After seeing this thread, I took in an older fixed power Burris (probably mid 80's manufacture at a guess) that the crosshairs had moved.

Guy at the store mentioned that the warranty applied to scopes manufactured after a certain date but would send it away.

I guess we will wait and see what happens.

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After seeing this thread, I took in an older fixed power Burris (probably mid 80's manufacture at a guess) that the crosshairs had moved.

Guy at the store mentioned that the warranty applied to scopes manufactured after a certain date but would send it away.

I guess we will wait and see what happens.

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Update: The old scope was replaced with a new 3-9x42 Droptine, no questions asked. Took about 2 weeks turnaround once the scope was (finally) sent away...long story there. Great service from Beretta NZ:thumbsup:

Bloody good service, as it should be

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bollocks....... for bush hunting in thick stuff it is awesome....the ONLY reason my main bush rifle isnt like it anymore is the post n rail reticle.
its not a new idea,cullers were doing it many years ago.

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Nah - the rifle ends up on a cant to all hell as the eye tries to level the reticle out. Its one thing to have the reticle off a little bit on the piss away from the turret screw axis - as long as the screws are perfectly in line horizontal and vertical but like that Leupold I had that was assembled on the piss it just didn't work at all. Wasn't a case of being hard to zero, it was just every shade of wrong. I actually clipped a chunk of timber on the range I first shot it at as the bore was so far out of line to the centreline of the scope...

If the reticle straight up and down isn't suited to the bush, get one with the old 'German No2' style (thick horizontal and half height vertical with a point) or a red dot. Much better...

your eyes must be wonky...its no different to make X mark the spot than to put a T on it.... used it like that many times without issue.
my M8 4x is a post n rail....I didnt say a duplex was no good in the thick bush,just that its BETTER if at 45 degrees.